12 Things We Learned From Part 2 of Kanye West's ‘Drink Champs’ Interview
The 'Donda' artist had plenty more to dive into for the second part of his wide-ranging 'Drink Champs' discussion, which featured Larry Hoover Jr.
Exactly one week after the release of the first part of Kanye West’s headlines-spawning Drink Champs interview, the sequel has arrived with a slew of its own headlines in tow.
Notably, the second half—which runs over an hour this time around—arrives amid coverage of Soulja Boy’s latest comments about Ye. Despite a publicly shared apology from Yeezy about how he handled an ultimately scrapped Donda verse, Big Draco had plenty of criticism still left to share during a return to the Breakfast Club.
Part II of West’s Drink Champs discussion also comes as developments continue to stack up with regards to a potential concert special that aims to further raise awareness around the push for Larry Hoover’s freedom. In fact, the first chunk of the new video sees Larry Hoover Jr. being given the floor.
Below, as was the case with the first part, we’ve rounded up some highlights.
Time stamps: 22:00, 23:27
Attorney Jennifer Bonjean, according to Ye, talked to Kim Kardashian West and “gave her another codebook” while she was training to be a lawyer. At the time, Ye said around the 22-minute mark, he was “giving ideas for skits” for Saturday Night Live.
“My wife was in a session with the lawyer that’s training her and the lawyer got on the phone and started making bad suggestions and I was like, ‘Man, this dude is an idiot. They got an idiot training my wife.’ She gonna fail the bar the third time because I feel like there’s people who might not want Kim Kardashian to become a lawyer.”
Shortly after, Yeezus said it’s “hard to feel love” as a celebrity, pointing to this facet of the experience of fame as being conducive for the presence of what he posited were “plants” within the industry.
“You don’t think the most popular, most famous women in the world got plants?. … Big facts, what you talking about, but at the end of the day, I ain’t got the paperwork yet so I’m gonna go on this joint and try to save my family and keep my family together and try to save [Larry Hoover Jr.’s] family, my extended family, and pull our family together,” he said.
Time stamp: 35:50
While the demand for the recently rolled-out Gap and Yeezy hoodies, often referred to as “the perfect hoodie,” was quickly proven, Ye wasn’t a fan of how they were initially presented to consumers.
“I’m working for the Gap. Ain’t nobody care about the Gap until we went to the Gap, bro,” he said. “I moved that stock. … Even when they dropped the hoodies, they made it look like the Drake cover on purpose and didn’t show me. You know, it had the multiple colors.”
Presumably, he’s referencing the Certified Lover Boy art here, which was handled by Damien Hirst.
Time stamps: 6:07
In the 2010 Teflon Don track “B.M.F.,” Rick Ross mentions Larry Hoover, who is currently serving life in a federal prison in Colorado. While Ye said he took the lyrics “as respect,” Hoover Jr. had more complicated feelings on it.
“I like the fact that he kept the name alive and put him into the limelight, but I always had a problem that he said his name and then said ‘whippin’ work,’” Hoover Jr. said. “He’s fighting for his life so I wouldn’t want him to speak on him about whipping work and him in drugs. … His federal case that he’s dealing with right now is a drug case. He has five or six life sentences.”
Time stamp: 51:55
“Man, if they don’t get the fuck up out of here, bro,” Yeezus said when asked about the so-called “canceling” of the comedian. “Cancel what? What cancel? What we canceling out here?”
After mentioning a Netflix and Stranger Things promo, Ye continued, mentioning what he called “Hollywood plant-ass n***as” and more.
“You can’t cancel none of us,” he said. “It’s up, boy.”
Time stamp: 48:05
Asked why he doesn’t utilize the approach of simply calling up Jay-Z directly, as opposed to sometimes taking his issues to the stage, West said he’s done that in the past. In fact, he pointed out, they recently had “a nice, polite conversation” at a wedding. Still, there’s a disconnect there, from the Watch the Throne co-creator’s perspective.
“It’s not always about the conversation you wanna have, it’s about the conversation,” West said. “So if I have a conversation that Jay don’t wanna have, he gonna avoid the conversation. If I have a conversation that Drake don’t wanna have about, ‘What did this line right here mean,’ though, he gonna avoid the conversation…I say it out loud, I’m now the crazy one.”
Time stamp: 50:12
“I’m sorry to all the backpack community,” Ye said before denouncing the genre as one from which he has a genuine connection. “Due to the fact that I was from the streets but I never killed anybody, it was just easier for me to pose like a backpacker. But I actually really love street n***as and I don’t really listen to backpack music like that.”
From there, Kweli was brought into the discussion, prompting this from Ye: “I apologize once again to Kweli. I’m sorry I never fucked with your raps.”
Kanye then noted, however, that he did recently see Kweli in person and joked that the two would now have a real fight on their hands.
Time stamp: 32:38
“Jordan still won’t meet with me,” Ye said when the topic of some choice lines on his 2016 “Facts” track was broached. “I’ve tried to meet with Michael Jordan, like, man, it’s a song, man.”
As for the larger issue of Nike, Kanye said they “ain’t had shit” since his involvement with the brand.
“But they could get it back,” he predicted. “There was a period with Drake.”
Time stamps: 7:17, 11:25, 19:40
Shortly after the seven-minute mark, Yeezy reflected on mentioning Hoover during a White House visit, noting that—at the time—there was a lawyer working on the case that he “didn’t like.” By Ye’s assessment, the lawyer in question—who was defended by Hoover Jr. later in the interview—wasn’t effectively “pushing for the situation.”
As for the new lawyer, later revealed as Jennifer Bonjean, West connected the effort to build a team around Hoover to the work of the late Robert Kardashian.
“So we found a new lawyer right now,” Ye said. “We’re putting together a new team for him. And I felt like it’s much in the footsteps of my father-in-law, Robert Kardashian. First Black victory, before we had Oprah and Obama, we had O.J.”
As for Bonjean, whose previous work includes representing Bill Cosby, Kanye said he took a liking to her after she “screamed at” him in the studio about taking pictures.
Time stamp: 26:15
Per N.O.R.E., Ye said on the phone prior to the interview that he wanted to “buy America.” Asked to clarify around the 26-minute mark, Ye said “I’m going to, okay?”
From there, Ye reflected on an invitation from Elon Musk to come out to Texas while also summarizing his ideas for how a community should be structured. “Put one farm in the middle of the community, make it so there’s no cars in the middle of the community,” Ye said when naming examples of what he would do.
Time stamps: 29:00, 31:09
Around the 29-minute mark, Ye said everyone is “on the spectrum” in some way.
“Only a couple of us went to the hospital or have been diagnosed with medication,” he clarified before moving into a reflection on a paparazzi incident in 2008. “When I slammed the paparazzi that day, they made me go to anger management. I’m sitting there with Amber Rose at the anger management situation and the anger management coach just keeps on hitting on Amber and then giving me some medication. That was the beginning of my medication. That was the snowball into eventually ending up being diagnosed as bipolar, which there’s a lot of people who will say, ‘I don’t believe that you are actually bipolar.’”
Calling someone “crazy,” in Ye’s opinion, is used as the “final cutoff” to shut someone down.
“We were raised into this life racist, sexist, homophobic, but now also a phobia of things of mental health,” he said.
Ye also drew in a There Will Be Blood reference.
“They’ll be like, ‘You need your meds. You’re not in your best mental state right now,’” he said. “No, I know what’s going on and I’m not having it. I’m Buffalo Bill. I’m one of them characters from the movies back in the days. Think about There Will Be Blood, man. They wasn’t having it. I’m not having none of it from nobody, ever. Period. On my life, on my mama, on God.”
Time stamp: 39:43
Unfortunately, Ye didn’t step in with some support for sex workers here. He did, however, claim to utilize OnlyFans content in a “bootleg” (i.e. non-paying) capacity.
“With men, we lower our power for just desire,” he said. “Men, we just be horny and then we’re gonna text these girls or DM or whatever they do on OnlyFans, because I get my OnlyFans off of Reddit. I bootleg the OnlyFans.”
Time stamp: 1:09:06
It wasn’t just a random Grammy, of which Ye has 22, that was selected when filming took place for the eventually tweeted footage of urination.
“One of the things when I pissed on the Grammy, I kept on picking up Grammys because there was so many of them and every time I looked at it, it would be one with someone else. … So I actually pissed on the ‘Stronger’ Grammy,” he explained, joking that peeing on it ultimately brought him “good luck” due to another win.