Sometime in either 2000 or 2001, Jacob the Jeweler tells his client Pharrell that there is a Japanese guy who is inspired by the producer’s jewels. That leads to Skateboard P meeting Nigo, the founder of the clothing line Bape. Pharrell becomes one of the first prominent people in the U.S. to wear the then-new brand, and Nigo then uses his relationship with Pharrell to reach out to Clipse.

“I just started getting boxes of clothes at my house in 2002 because Nigo was a fan of a record called ‘Grindin,’” Pusha told Vibe. “Some kids he didn’t know from Virgina making 100% dopeboy music—he just liked it. I didn’t know him. He didn’t know me.”