Banksy and Run The Jewels, two of the creative forces responsible for 2015 definitely being a great time to be alive, have finally exchanged some enlightening words in the name of Dismaland. Dismaland, of course, is Banksy's typically brilliant bemusement park aimed at subverting Disneyland with a decidedly Banksian message of "theme parks should have bigger themes."
Earlier this week, Banksy gave a rare interview to the Guardian surrounding Dismaland's opening. "I think a museum is a bad place to look at art," the artist said of his Dismaland intentions. "The worst context for art is other art." Thankfully, Banksy's willingness to give the Guardian some instaquotes was not a one-off anomaly. On Saturday, the British publication unveiled a Banksy v Run The Jewels interview that's admittedly succinct but definitely still required reading.
On YouTube-inspired crying:
Banksy: The clip of your speech at Ferguson after the verdict [when the jury decided not to charge officer Darren Wilson for the death of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown] made me cry. When did you last cry watching YouTube?
Killer Mike: The last time YouTube made me cry was watching Dr John Henrik Clarke speak about Marcus Garvey. I was overwhelmed with pain for a great man that was abused and mistreated because he wanted to better the state of blacks globally. It is scary to think a system exists that wishes not to see all people live with human dignity and respect. I did, however, finish feeling encouraged that day will come.
EL-P: When the two guys raised the lion and then set the lion free but they missed the lion and they visited it in Africa and the lion was now king of his tribe and had a wife and children but he recognized the two guys and ran up and hugged them and licked their faces. I wept like a baby.
On Kanye West's status as the world's greatest rock star:
Banksy: When Kanye came to the UK recently, he played on a dairy farm and declared himself the greatest rock star in the world. Does he have any competition for that?
EL-P: Absolutely not.
Killer Mike: Kanye is amazing and may be the greatest rock star in the world but Rihanna is the new Tupac (in feminist form), and as much as I love rock, ain’t nobody do it like Pac! Ri-Ri rules in my book.
The trio also spoke on the need for bravery in truly revolutionary art, citing Mister Totem, Chris Hobe, Mad Clout, and others as personal favorites. "The bravest artists I’ve ever known have always been graf artists," says El-P. "Risking your life and your freedom is no joke."