When it comes to anything dealing with tradition and legends there are likely some behind-the-scenes type stories that we don’t always know about—the Air Jordan series is no different. Whether it was Michael Jordan hating a design or unusual influences, Jordan sneakers have some untold history too. We decided to put together a list of 23 things you may not know about Air Jordans. Check it out and let us know which facts are new to you.

Sources unless otherwise noted include Jordan: History of Flight, Swoosh, by J.B. Strasser and Laurie Becklund, and multiple interviews including this one with Tinker Hatfield.