For entirely logic-free reasons, an anthropomorphic, breaded-cheese curd was inaugurated in January. The event was preceded by a number of celebrities taking time out of their otherwise neo-Nazi-free days to embarrass themselves with a Trump Tower photo op. One of these photo ops featured expert memo writer Steve Harvey, who—a full eight months later—has finally admitted that he should have skipped that fucking meeting.

Continuing his promotional obligations for his new daytime talk show, Steve, Harvey spoke with the Hollywood Reporter Tuesday and faced the inevitable Trump question. Harvey, whose meeting was roundly mocked in damn near every region of the nation, claims he didn't see the backlash coming. "It was so vicious that it really threw me," Harvey said. "I was being called names that I've never been called: Uncle Tom. A coon. A sellout. Because I went to see this man?!"

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Harvey blamed "the Obama transition team" for arranging the meeting, claiming they told him it was a "good idea" in the spirit of encouraging dialogue. But Harvey's wife, Marjorie Bridges, (wisely!) advised him to skip it. "I'm supposed to be on a boat for my 60th birthday, so my wife says, 'Steve, just take off [and skip the meeting]. You'll meet with him some other time,'" Harvey recalled. "God, I should've listened."

According to Harvey, he and Trump talked about golf for 20 minutes before he admitted that he "campaigned very hard" for Trump's far more competent opponent, Hillary Clinton. The two haven't spoken since. Harvey and Housing and Urban Development head Ben Carson, however, are apparently set to make some sort of "vision center" announcement by year's end.

Additionally, Harvey talked about that infamous diva memo, the coverage of which he says simply "got out of hand." He also touched on his current relationship with Bill Cosby: "When I heard all the trouble [Cosby] was in, I called and asked him how he was doing," Harvey said. "You know what he says to me? 'Hey man, I appreciate you calling, but just stay away from me right now. You don't need none of this on you. You're doing good. Whatever happens to me, happens to me, but don't you get none of this on you.' That's an amazing thing for a guy to say."

Read the full Harvey x THR chat here.