A U.S. Air Force officer and ex-intelligence official testified under oath on Wednesday about the recovery of “non-human” biologics from crashed aircraft.
UAP (f.k.a. UFO) whistleblower David Grusch was among three men who provided testimony and took questions during the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency hearing in front of a House Oversight subcommittee on Wednesday.
Ryan Graves, an executive director of Americans for Safe Aerospace, and David Favor, a former commanding officer with the U.S. Navy, also testified at the hearing.
“As I’ve stated publicly already in my NewsNation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah,” Grusch said when asked about bodies allegedly being recovered following a crash.
Grusch appeared on NewsNation in June, alleging that a government task force focused on the UAP issue was denied access in the past to what he described as a "broad crash retrieval program."
At Wednesday's hearing, Grusch was asked to specify whether these biologics were human or “non-human,” prompting him to confirm they were the latter.
“Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program that I talked to that are currently still on the program,” he said.
Elsewhere, Grusch was asked about the existence of “actual evidence” of “extraterrestrial” intelligence, further pushed to reveal when such evidence was first obtained.
“I like to use the term ‘non-human,’” Grusch first pointed out in response to the question. “I don’t like to donate originally, it keeps the aperture open. … Certainly, like I’ve discussed publicly previously, the 1930s.”
For longtime followers of the UAP/UFO issue, it’s impossible to not get excited about key facets of Wednesday’s hearing. Namely, as has been widely pointed out, it’s worth commemorating the fact that “non-human” concerns of this variety have now been spoken about in an under-oath capacity.
Notably, Tom DeLonge and To the Stars were both mentioned during Wednesday's hearing, with Fravor crediting the organization for having “pressed the issue with leading Industry experts and USG officials, worked with Leslie Keane, Ralph Blumenthal, and Helene Cooper to publish the articles in the [New York Times] in [December] 2017 admitting the [U.S. government] was looking at UAPs, and removed the Stigma of the UFO topic which led to us being here today.”
DeLonge, who recently closed out the North American leg of blink-182’s classic lineup reunion tour with a show in Nashville, responded by referencing an oft-used phrase among longtime fans of the band—“Tom was right."
In a recent Alternative Press interview, To The Stars co-founder and current VP of Operations Jim Semivan speculated on why the government may have allegedly buried information about recovered aircraft.
"I think the USG and other governments have no answers, at least answers that would satisfy the people," Semivan said in June. "What if we are no longer at the top of the food chain? If we are not, where do we fit in? The questions are endless…and for many people, extremely unnerving. We should all hang onto our hats."