Time stamp: 34:21

Asked if he himself would "defund police" if given the chance, Obama broke down his interpretation of the phrase, which has received significant attention in 2020 while also being widely misconstrued.

"No, because I think the phrase implies that somehow we could do without the police or that the police are the only source of our problem," Obama said. "But what I would do is rethink how we do policing in a lot of communities." From there, Obama shared his assessment of prior reform efforts.

"The truth is, we've never tried robust reform," Obama said.