Elon Musk’s father, Errol Musk, is making headlines again. This time, however, the headlines in question are not focused on reportedly having children with a stepdaughter.

Over the weekend, Errol appeared on Australia’s The Kyle and Jackie O Show, with the hosts asking him about Elon’s accomplishments. At around the 1:43 mark in the video below, for example, Errol is asked if he is “proud” of Elon, to which a “no” is offered before the question is even finished being asked.

Pushed to clarify whether he is indeed “not proud” of Elon, Errol pointed to what he described as the larger family’s assortment of accomplishments, including those he says precede Elon’s own.

“No. … I mean, we are a family that have been doing a lot of things for a long time,” he said. “It’s not as though we suddenly started doing something. So we’ve all been, you know, as a family all doing things … from the very beginning and, um, so, I mean, the kids were traveling with me around the world when they were tiny. They’ve been doing pretty much very interesting things. We’ve been down to the Amazon together, for example. We’ve been to China, you know, long ago when it was quite difficult to get there.”

In Errol’s opinion, Elon—whose brother Kimbal is a successful restaurateur—is “not as happy as he’d like to be” because he believes he is “behind schedule.”

Also broached during the conversation is the aforementioned stepdaughter development, headlines about which Errol responded to, in part, by saying the following: “I was married to her mother for two years in the ‘90s. … She was actually placed in foster care.” 

If you absolutely must subject yourself to it, the full interview can be heard below.