During a particularly dark moment in human history, thousands of people—all jacked up on cleverly disguised nostalgia—swarmed McDonald's locations across the United States in search of tiny packets of overrated dipping sauce. Most of these Szechuan sauce searchers were not successful, leading to at least one of them allegedly trading their car for a single packet.

Now, as cooler heads have prevailed in the wake of McDonald's public apology for angering people who construct their dipping sauce palate using Rick and Morty pop culture references, series co-creator Justin Roiland is sharing his own sobering thoughts about the Great Szechuan Fuckery of 2017.

Roiland was unfortunate enough to be bothered by TMZ at LAX Tuesday, leading to a fruitful discussion about limited edition sauce hype and whatnot. "I think it's good," Roiland said of the sauce, which actually isn't good at all. "Some of the writers thought it was disgusting." As for the McDonald's frustrations, Roiland reiterated that the whole mess started as a joke on the show before somehow exploding into a real-world issue.

"I think what they'll probably do, hopefully, is that they'll release enough for everybody to try it which would be nice," Roiland said. "It's absurd. It became, like, a collector thing. It's a fucking dipping sauce, guys. I was bummed out really for the workers. The whole thing was bad on every side." Tragically, TMZ forgot to ask Roiland about Dick and Morty.

Last month, McDonald's apologized to pissed Rick and Morty fans by announcing another Szechuan revival would be going down later this year. "Szechuan Sauce is coming back once again this winter," someone labeled as "your friends at McDonald's" said in a statement. "And instead of being one-day-only and limited to select restaurants, we're bringing more—a lot more—so that any fan who's willing to do whatever it takes for Szechuan Sauce will only have to ask for it at a nearby McDonald's."