That does align with what Aaron Boyd said, as he said the coaches were paying with bounced checks. The aspect of JUCO kids playing with the team, is that true?
Player 1: I’ll say this. I’ll speak on that. No kids came from a JUCO and were staying there, but a lot of the kids were just old. I know for a fact, there were kids walking around with kids of their own. One of the players last year had two kids of their own. There were four or five kids that were 20, 21, had children of their own, and came in there like they run things. 

But another thing was Roy Johnson sold a false dream. At the end of season, he was like, Duquesne this, Bryant that, Akron this. “You guys wanting to [go] there, I’m in touch with all those coaches.” But it’s a couple months after the season, you don’t hear from him again. It’s ghost mode. We moved out. No one heard from him again. 

What would you say is the worst thing that Roy has done while you were there? 
Player 2: It’s a long list. 

Go through the list 
Player 2: He’s a liar. He’s a thief. Probably the worst things. 

“Roy Johnson sold a false dream.”

Player 1: I think it’s selling false dreams. Like telling your players you’re gonna have X, Y, Z, we’re gonna fund this and that, and not having any of that provided for your kids. I don’t know what program the schooling is with, but not making sure your kids are getting the proper education. It’s cool to check in every once in a while to see how your kids are in school. We didn’t even start till three months after the fact. So I’d say school, selling false dreams, and funding. I think that’s the concept of lying, selling false dreams. 

Why do you think he’s doing this? What does he gain from this? 
Player 1: I wanna know what else Roy is doing, because for saying there’s no funding, he took out a $100,000 loan last year. Where did that money go? Stuff like that.  

Player 2: I think what he benefits from is if we beat IMG and all these top teams, now people ask, “Who’s this coach?” so maybe you can land a college job at a bigger D1, D2 program. That may be in his head, but the staff says it’s for the brotherhood. 

Player 1: There’s no brotherhood. There’s at least five fights every practice. 

Player 2: Literally fights. 

Player 1: We got evicted from the apartments we were staying in. 

Player 2: During the season, there was one legit D1 player that came in. He was brought in, and he hated it immediately. He saw every flaw. There’s a lot of players coming in and out of the program. Probably started with 40, and by the end of the season, there was four or five kids coming to practice. 

Did you guys hear that Roy might be out? 
Player 1: Really? 

Player 2: Roy was never really the head coach. Roy is never gonna be out; Roy is gonna be somewhere. He’s never gonna leave that program. He might say he’s not taking the coaching job. He might lie to make the public get off his back. But Roy is not gonna get out of that. He’s gonna be in their ears at all times. 

So you would say Roy doesn’t even call plays? 
Player 2: He’s behind the scenes. They literally grabbed their plays off of Madden

Player 1: Straight to it, but you gotta pick better plays when you’re playing IMG Academy. 

Why didn’t y’all speak up about it back then? 
Player 1: I was a senior, so it didn’t bother me too much. The reason I didn’t speak about it was because it felt kinda pointless. I also had a good relationship with him, but I didn’t know the behind-the-scenes stuff. I didn’t want to go out there publicly and make him look bad, just because of the relationship you had. 

“I think the program shouldn’t be a thing anymore.”

Go into that a bit more. What was the relationship you guys had before you knew about all this?
Player 1: For me, It was definitely good. It’s like having a mother or father, but they don’t tell you they’re struggling with the bills. You just don’t know anything. 

What’s your overall assessment of Roy and who he is as a person and what needs to happen to him?
Player 2: Can I say something?  We took a dude on the team that was straight out of jail and put him on the team when he graduated in 2019. Straight out of the cell. We couldn’t fly on the plane to IMG Academy because people had warrants for their arrest. 

Player 2: Yes. I believe in the justice system, so if Roy was doing bounced checks and not paying his rent and doing all these crimes, I think he should go to jail.

Player 1: From my POV, Roy should shut the program down. I think the program shouldn’t be a thing anymore.