Jack says: "A lot of people care more about Loveless, which is completely understandable for pretty obvious reasons. That record is amazing, but if you go back more into their discography, there are so many of these hidden pop songs that are retarded good. Distortion aside, a song like 'Thorn' is a classic pop song. Great hooks, verses and choruses that play off of each other in a very traditional, catchy way. I just love structured songwriting like that."