Steve Wozniak, Steve Jobs' partner in crime in the founding of Apple, recently opened up to the Milwaukee Business Journal about what employees at the company thought of Jobs as the genius tyrant he was known to be. “Some of my very best friends in Apple, the most creative people in Apple who worked on the Macintosh, almost all of them said they would never, ever work for Steve Jobs again,” Wozniak said. “It was that bad.”

Check out the interview above.