What’s something you learned about yourself while working on this album?
I doubted myself a lot. Most of the time, I just treat everything as if it’s regular, when it’s like some major shit going on. Everybody be like, “Bro, what’s going on? Why you acting like that?” I told you I’m a nonchalant type of person. But I gotta get out of the mode of thinking everything’s just regular. I got to realize what’s going on, and try to understand a little bit. I be lost in the sauce a little.
How did your collaboration with Big Sean and Hit-Boy come together on “It Ain’t My Fault?”
I think Big Sean reached out and said he wanted to work. I don’t know. But I’m a big fan of both of them. We actually was in the studio, going back and forth. So, me being from Detroit, I walk in the studio and Hit-Boy and Big Sean are in there, and I get a chance to display my talents. That was a moment.
Coming from the same city, did Big Sean have any encouraging words or advice for you?
Big Sean gave me the most motivation, because he’s established in the industry, and the things he said to me had me feeling like I’m here to stay. He appreciated me. He told me that he likes my style, and I’m going to be cool. So, hearing that from somebody who is already situated in the game is just like, man, I’ve got to stay on point. Big Sean showed mad love. I had met him before in high school. It’s crazy, he probably didn’t even know I rap. I was shooting dice and they was shooting videos. Then a couple years later we were in the studio working, and that’s how that went.
“I’m just like everybody else. I’m just somebody who tried something and I’m doing my thing right now. I ain’t too different.”
What are your thoughts on Detroit’s current rap scene?
We’re blowing up right now. We’re going crazy. We’ve got too much talent, and they finally made their way over Detroit. I mean, they’ve already been over here since we established this. They fucking with us. They fucking with the street scene—the local artists that’ve been buzzing for a while. I ain’t gonna lie. We been doing this—me, Peezy, Dame—we been doing this for nine plus years. And we had never gotten nobody to say nothing about nothing. So for this moment to be happening, it’s big. We appreciate it.
How do you think Detroit compares to other major cities dominating rap right now, like Atlanta or New York?
To me, the rap game is pretty much all the same. It’s authentic. I’m not going to say that’s what set [Detroit’s music] apart from nobody, because that’s pretty much what’s going on in the rap game right now. More reality rap is going on right now, versus being entertainers.
Are there any other Detroit artists we should be paying attention to right now?
Hell yeah. Veeze, that’s my mans. You got to check Veeze out. He stupid crazy. Los and Nutty. World Tour Mafia, bunch of kids, they’re very creative. Fuck with Payroll, always been one of them. Peezy, he the champ of this shit. Me, of course. Baby Money, Tay B, Sterl Gotti, Jim Stacks. It’s just so many people. Sada Baby. He going crazy. It’s so much shit going on, you can’t miss it.
What do you think makes you stand out from other emerging artists?
Versatility, man. I got so many different styles of how I do things. I think that’s why people be fucking with me.
What are your goals in music 10 years from now?
Of course I want to be a household, staple name. I want to be somebody that helps other artists. I want to be with a facility that comes to Detroit and creates space where podcasting, studios, videographers, can come and work to better their craft. I want to be somebody that put Detroit on, not just come from Detroit.
What’s the biggest misconception about you? Or something that most people wouldn’t expect from you?
It’s kind of a mystique about me. Don’t nobody really know too much about me. I like to leave it like that. It’s really nothing to know. I’m just like everybody else. I’m just somebody who tried something and I’m doing my thing right now. I ain’t too different.
You’ve been grinding for some time now, and you mentioned second guessing yourself at times. What has motivated you to keep going?
The fans. You’re gonna have the most people going through the worst times in life, the worst anything. And the fans is what keep me going. Anytime I even think about stopping and giving up, it’s always somebody being a fan like, “Man hell nah. You got to [keep going].” You know what I’m saying? At a point, I thought it was over with. I thought I had reached a peak where I could go. Then I met a few artists bigger than me in the game, and they were like, “We fuck with you.” That’s what kept me going.