Ninja Weighs In After Joe Rogan Says 'Video Games Are a Real Problem'

Ninja responded to Joe Rogan, after the podcast host explained his biggest issue with video games during Friday's episode of 'The Joe Rogan Experience.'

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On Sunday evening, Ninja responded to recent comments Joe Rogan made on the subject of video games with...comments of his own. The thoughts expressed by the world's top paid gamer came (no real surprise) in defense of gaming, which he argued was a worthy hobby to put time into, and is a viable industry for some people who'd like to build a career off it. Speaking calmly in a video posted to social media, Ninja attempted to understand where Rogan was coming from, after the comedian/host made an argument that playing video games generally doesn't lead the person playing them anywhere, and even said he'd like to be on Rogan's pod to discuss the issue further. 

Joe Rogan gaming comment thoughts video.

Mind was kinda everywhere but wanted to get a little vid out to explain it sooner rather than later.

ALSO! Enjoy the full emo hair Ninj right now 🤪 pic.twitter.com/fgb92vUVtF

— Ninja (@Ninja) July 26, 2020

After saying that he believes Rogan was referencing the rare gamer who can make a lucrative career as a player, he shared that he didn't believe Rogan was fully aware of the other "avenues" to a career that are available through the medium. 

"There's streaming, content creation, YouTube, being a professional player, being a fricking coach," Ninja rattled off. "You can be incredibly understanding of the game and not have the physical capacity to be able to get pentakills every single game. That doesn't mean there's not a job for you, right? That doesn't mean there's not a place for you in the gaming community (...) especially when coaches are being valued more and more." 

For very necessary background, during the latest Joe Rogan Experience episode, uploaded on Friday, the host for whom that show is named challenged what I would assume is a decent chunk of his audience by stating that he has a "big problem" with video games. As he sees it, the issue is that gaming doesn't help one develop as a person. To some (me) there may seem to be some irony in that one of the best times to listen to a podcast is when you're playing said games, but here is Rogan explaining where he's coming from to his guest, author and Spartan founder Joe De Sena:

“Video games a real problem. You know why? Because they’re f**king fun. You do them, and they’re real exciting, but you don’t get anywhere.”

Joe Rogan has described video games as a “waste of time” for 'most people': https://t.co/8phVgmGYP9 pic.twitter.com/HGVgCfr7mh

— Dexerto (@Dexerto) July 26, 2020

"Video games are a real problem," Rogan said. "They're a real problem. You know why? Because they're fucking fun. You do them, and they're real exciting, but you don't get anywhere."

From there, he used Jujitsu as an example of an activity that you can perfect and then make a career out of. He contrasted this with gaming, which he said you can do and then three years later you're still doing it without any real growth as a human. As pointed out by the site Dexerto, gaming is a topic that frequently comes up on the show, and Rogan himself has logged lots of hours on the activity in his leisure time, so he's not coming at the subject from a place of condescension (as so many have in the past). 

"You [could be] doing something exciting and fun, or you could just be playing fucking video games," Rogan went on. "Three years later you could just be that same kid, playing video games, waiting for the next whatever the fuck game is... You're gonna waste your time."

Adding further context to Rogan's comments, Dexerto writes that he conceded that the medium he used to get to where he is (stand-up comedy) is also a very difficult thing to make a career out of. But he still doesn't think that gaming is a great use of one's time.

"There are kids that make a lot of fucking money playing video games," Rogan added. "But you have to be adaptable, you have to able to play multiple video games. Because the one game you get really good at, what are the odds it'll be around in five years time?"

After we published, Ninja added to his previous comments by saying that he knows Rogan's really into video games, and that he's pretty well informed on the subject of professional competition. He said that he just thinks things have changed a lot in the past few years, and that he'd love to delve into that with Rogan on the pod:

I just want to add/reiterate

Joe Rogan is a gamer, hands down the dudes loves them and is pretty well informed on the competitive side/aspect of it. I just believe there is a huge gap of the last 5 years where gaming has catipulted into a different era and would love to explain https://t.co/aSvL5VsTiX

— Ninja (@Ninja) July 27, 2020

As for non-Ninja people, read what they had to say below, including tweets from O'Shea Jackson Jr., whose initial tweet prompted Ninja's latest response.

Nothing you do that you enjoy is a waste of time. Sure there needs to be balance so you don’t build unhealthy habits, but his take goes for literally anything you do in life. Do what makes you happy & follow your passion, don’t let someone telling you it’s a waste of time stop u! https://t.co/x6PqrRXXck

— FaZe ZooMaa (@ZooMaa) July 26, 2020

You can also listen to countless hours of Joe Rogan and not see any improvement to your life. https://t.co/CBgh42MWLI

— ConradZimmerman@masthead.social (@ConradZimmerman) July 26, 2020

Joe Rogan has been playing Quake for like 20 years and has brought on pros and devs as guests, his comments come from a place of being borderline addicted to video games more than anything. if you're gonna get mad at Joe Rogan there's way better stuff to choose from

— Rod Breslau (@Slasher) July 26, 2020

I think the main problem here is the notion that a fun activity needs to produce money to be worth your time. What if it makes you happy? What if you bond with your friends & get stress relief through video games?

— Chica (@ChicaLive) July 26, 2020

I wasted my time playing video games as a kid;to such degree that I wanted to know how to make them. I wasted time learning some coding, art, sound & music.
I’ve now been wasting my life for nearly 30 years writing music for them & companies waste lots of money paying me for it.

— Joris de Man - *screaming in a pillow* (@jorisdemanmusic) July 26, 2020

Not everyone who does jujitsu everyday for five years becomes a black belt (some people are stuck at blue for yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeears) and not everyone who opens a gym makes money. Many bjj guys wives think bjj is a waste of time too 🤷🏿‍♂️

— Nabil Abdulrashid (@Nabilu) July 26, 2020

He got addicted to gaming during the Quake era. He loved it too much. For an ambitious dude, it took too much of his time. He’s projecting himself here, that’s all. It isn’t a big commentary on the industry, but his personal experience. Hes spoken on it often. Its understandable.

— Ellohime (@EllohimeTwitch) July 26, 2020

Long live gamers and long live gaming! My love for video games made me realize my talent for writing. And it led me to want to write for video games. And helped me get into @USCCinema Don’t downplay another persons passion no matter what it is. Respect to @Ninja #PressStart https://t.co/tVSqN5BNLb

— Stone Cold Shea Jackson (@OsheaJacksonJr) July 27, 2020

I think it’s a great thing to get that convo going. But people gotta know quotes like that can be taken other places and cause harm to a lot in the community. I wasn’t tryna hit up joe or I woulda tagged him. Just those who don’t get what gaming does for so many in the world. https://t.co/6fyFLz7Ly5

— Stone Cold Shea Jackson (@OsheaJacksonJr) July 27, 2020

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