At ComplexCon 2017, Complex founder Marc Ecko hosted Retrospectives in Collaboration & Superflat​, a panel that brought together ComplexCon host committee members Takashi Murakami and Virgil Abloh for an enlightening discussion about the convergence of art, fashion, and design, and how it's changed over time.

An example of this, Virgil explains, is how consumers now put an emphasis on products they "cherish" over how much it actually costs. In a sense, personal value and worth outweighs the price tag, which differs from past generations.

Ecko​ prompts Murakami with a question about how "misunderstanding can drive culture forward," which leads to an entertaining story about Murakami collaborating with Louis Vuitton without really knowing too much about the iconic Parisian fashion house.

Interestingly enough, this same collaboration played a major part in Abloh pursuing art and fashion. "Hadn't it been for the collaboration between Louis Vuitton and Takashi Murakami, I wouldn't have had that sort of eureka moment," he explains. "Between him and Marc deciding to make a project, me being the kid going to Michigan Avenue, and hey, in rap Louis Vuitton is popular. There's something cool happening there."

Watch the full episode above where Abloh and Murakami also share how their family and friends influence their art, and keep it locked to Complex as we'll be dropping more ComplexCon(versations) panels featuring LaVar Ball, Deray McKesson, and more.