Hate of the Union: When New York Disses The South
By Insanul Ahmed | Jul 1, 2010 | 1:38 pm | Permalink
Previously, we've tried to highlight times when New York rappers showed love to the South. But there's no denying that New Yorkers tend to hate on the South, especially in the past few years when New York rap has been relatively dormant and the South has been nothing short of dominant.
For example, last week when Mississippi rapper Big K.R.I.T. (along with CyHi da Prince) made a surprise appearance at the Highline Ballroom in NYC to perform songs from his excellent mixtape KRIT Wuz Here, he was greeted with scores of boos. When K.R.I.T. was later asked about getting booed, we were glad to see he took it in stride, with a smile on his face, and brought up the fact that New York has also booed legendary acts like Outkast in the past. K.R.I.T. might have been taking the high road, but he could have easily brought up numerous other occasions of New York hating on the South. That's why we've put together a few notable instances of New Yorkers disrespecting Southern hip-hop...
DrHipHop July 6th, 2010 at 05:44 PM
Maybe OJ got boo'ed because he sucks?
WordSmyth July 6th, 2010 at 06:33 PM
I never understand why people can't like good hip-hop just for being good hip-hop. Fuck where the person is from, it really doesn't matter at the end of the day. I am from Dallas, TX and am the first to admit that the east coast for the most part has better rappers and most of my favorite rappers are from New York, but to say the south doesn't have good hip-hop is just foolish and anyone who thinks this is not a true hip-hop head. Big Boi, Andre 3000, Bun B, Pimp C, Scarface, Jay Electronica, Big K.R.I.T., T.I. (not my personal favorite), Ludacris, Curren$y, Trae, Z-Ro and Devin the Dude are all very talented artists. Yes the south is the home of guys like Soulja Boy and Wacka Flocka but who really takes them seriously. Remember that just because they are 2 different styles of hip-hop doesn't mean you can't learn to appreciate both East coast and southern rappers.
London Calling July 6th, 2010 at 08:05 PM
Well said. But eff it... Fuck New York!!!!!
Boogz July 7th, 2010 at 03:10 AM
no fuck you...most southern rappers suck ...its a fact ...deal with it
scourge July 7th, 2010 at 08:39 AM
same goes for new york, a bunch of people that havent been able to sell records since 99. howabout we just end the whole debate on this; "HIP-HOP FROM EVERY REGION KINDA SUCKS NOW" So NY stop hating because no one in the mainstream listens to you & Southern MCs need to stop signing wack people. AND Im from VA the capital of the south (look it up) so if you say fuck the south then ask yourself when Saigon & Papoose ar going to bring "real rap back?" lol but its all love we cant make good music if we cant get along. Ny needs to understand that its not 88 anymore, music comes from all over the US not just the empire state. Its about HIP_HOP, not north or south, muslim or christian, balck or white, conscious or club. So when NY sells records & the southern artist mature then we can all talk about who sucks.
SVR247365 July 7th, 2010 at 05:29 PM
"SCOURGE" LOL c'mon man...VA? capitol of the south?? nigga LMBAO!! YOU BETTER NOT say the tidewater area either cause yall cats SWORE yall were from NYC in the 90's!! Now yall the south huh? LMBAO 2x's!! I got peoples out there, badnews, p town, ft euestis, hamptom, norfolk I KNOW!!...c'mon bruh... COME THE FK on BRUH!! Capitol of the south?? since fkn when? SO I guess richmond cats is the south now too huh? LOFL! You must be proud waaaaay after the fact LOL! I can understand why YOU would be talkin like that...after chasing something you could NEVER BE or be accpeted as... might as well jump ship...now yall dirty south... ALl them studios down there, NONE of them cats was making 'southern' style beats, all yall were copying Wu tang or Mobb deep sound, budda brothers didnt play no "southern style" NOTHING! LOL! CMON MAN! maybe now they do but you killin me here bruh...capitol of the south, you GOTTA BE a child....cause only a snot nose would play himself like you...Va...LOL If you say northern Va....now I KNOW your full of sh*t! Good job complex...
matt July 6th, 2010 at 08:44 PM
lol ya OJ got booed cuz he's ass and Pill's not And i remember people booing Jay Elec in CT because he wasn't the headliner and they were impatient
jf July 6th, 2010 at 09:01 PM
watchin dat oj da juiceman performance I dont care were your from you better boo dat if you know good fuckin music
johnye July 7th, 2010 at 02:39 AM
uhhhhh charles hamilton is 10 times better then soulja boy will ever be. what are you talking about complex?? ill take one of hamiltons mixtapes over any of soulja boys records.
CHUCK DIESEL July 7th, 2010 at 03:40 AM
Out of allll the shit thats going on in tha WHOLE WIDE WORLD famous or infamous, this is whats most important @ this part of the game?
Charles D Armstrong July 7th, 2010 at 03:54 AM
There's no sustained, demonstrable validity attached to the beliefs that some of these people hold onto. It's just some kind of vague, rather shallow, and sometimes really silly aspiration for something grand, all-encompassing. I see too many people who jump into spirituality as a shelter to hide from reality. It doesn't work that way. The way it works is for the spirit behind you to follow you wherever you go, like a loyal soldier, and show you how to face up to adversity. If you can't face adversity, you will get locked into a new age perception that everything is fine when it isn't. That makes you vulnerable to being exploited by the person who comes along and says, "I am a psychic. I have studied with this guy or that guy, and I know what you should do."
Charles D Armstrong July 7th, 2010 at 03:55 AM
The best places are multicultural conferences. You have the opportunity to go through racial tensions and cultural differences; you can acknowledge that we don't trust each other. The next logical step might be a fight, yet, by not fighting and staying with the tension, working through it together, you come to a place where that feeling can be transcended. Unless there has been sweat--people sweating to get through the countless things that keeps them apart--they are probably lying when they say we are all one.
Charles D Armstrong July 7th, 2010 at 03:57 AM
If you believe that just by coming together to the same place you are already awakened, forget it. Because you are living in a culture with a very heavy history behind it, and you are all stained by it. You have to start by looking into that history, realizing where you are as a culture with respect to it. The choice is to do the hard work to transcend your history--or to just pretend that everything is fine in the way of naive spirituality.
CAshBOI July 7th, 2010 at 08:10 AM
All of those New York artist mentioned in this article are all washed up. NAS, WU-Tang, Saigon,MOBB-DEEP, 50-cent. They are all salty because no one buys or even downloads their shit anymore..LOL And Raekwon did a song with Playa Circle, song's with Outkast.etc How his monkey ass going to say something about the SOUTH is beyond me.
W. J. Rice July 7th, 2010 at 03:36 PM
Did I miss something? Where did it say Raekwon said this and that about the south?
SVR247365 July 7th, 2010 at 05:51 PM
LOL my point exactly!
SVR247365 July 7th, 2010 at 05:50 PM
see what I mean COMPLEX, he already upset when NONE OF THESE ARTIST actually made the comment, YALL said it...he even asking why would they say it? confused! You think Nas was thinkin fk the south when he builds with jay electronica? You think RZA was sayin fk the south when he got up with BIG GIPP for domestic violence pt.2? You think Raekwon was thinkin fk the south when he collabed with outkast? What abvout RZA doing a joint with lil flip for the blade trinity soundtrack? What about LA the darkman? he with DJ DRAMA now! Look at rick ross, he sayin he wants to be the next BIGGIE, not Big Mike, not face? is he hatin on the south too? Scarface said fuck the 'dirty south' awards... he fought too hard to be apart of HIP HOP for things to get all segregated now, honor me with your Nas's and Ice cubes'... Now what do u say?