Interview: Action Bronson Talks "Blue Chips" Mixtape, XXL Freshmen Snub, and Quitting Blunts

Interview: Action Bronson Talks "Blue Chips" Mixtape, XXL Freshmen Snub, and Quitting Blunts

The wait is over. Action Bronson’s new Party Supplies–produced Blue Chips mixtape dropped today, and you can stream it exclusively on the Complex Music Channel. We caught up with Peter Luger Jr. to get the scoop on his creative process, see what else he’s got cooking in the kitchen, and speak on a few burning issues.

Interview by Ernest Baker (@newbornrodeo)

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Do you still smoke from the Volcano like you did on that Terry Richardson shoot?

I’m done with the Volcano. I gave it up after a week. It wasn’t for me. I don’t like smoking out of a fucking turkey baster. That shit’s for turkey. It’s cool, at first. It’s novelty and all that, but fuck that. Give me a joint, man. I used to be a blunt man, but I’m a joint man now.

Why did you make the switch?

My lungs, man. It’s bad, smoking 10 to 15 dutches. It’s like raw-dog, man. I woke up, coughing up brown shit. I just didn’t want that anymore. I’d be short of breath, and I’d always get sick. It’s terrible.

Are you trying to be more healthy, in general?

I’d like to say yes, but I eat crazy, still. I’m trying. I’m trying to get back into the shape that I was once in.

Do you still have dreams of opening a restaurant? Do you think you’ll do that one day?

I would definitely like to do that one day, but at this point it’s just too much work to do. The restaurant business is something that you have to treat like a baby. You have to constantly be there. You can’t trust it to anybody else, because no one’s going to love it like you do. It could easily be a fucking money pit. I’ve seen that happen a lot of times.

 

I don’t have any pressure when I make records. I just do what I feel at the time. With [Party Supplies], I work off the cuff. He would make the beat right there, and I would make the rap right there.

 

Are you concerned that your “Hookers At The Point” video doesn't have more views at the moment?

Not necessarily. I’m used to a certain amount of people checking my shit out—and maybe I’m an asshole for feeling that way—but I’m used to 100 to 200 in two days, or something like that. But I think the YouTube count is wrong [Laughs]. I’m just going to roll with that.

The problem with that is, when someone looks at that, and they’re judging you by views, it looks a little funny. These days, you’re judged by fucking views. I’ve got the Twitter followers popping, though, for a fucking independent artist. This shit doesn’t matter to me, though. Fuck a view. Fuck a follower. If you like my shit, that’s it. I don’t give a fuck if you follow or view or whatever it is, as long as you know you like it, and you’re fucking with it.

In the description of “Hookers At The Point,” you talked about how it was ill to be able to make something with Party Supplies without the pressure of having a hit. What can you say about your recording process with Party Supplies and how you guys put these songs together?

I don’t ever have the pressure of making a hit, because I’ve never had a hit song, per se. The closest thing to a hit song was “Shiraz,” and it’s not your prototypical hit song, with a catchy hook and all this other stuff. I don’t have any pressure when I make records. I just do what I feel at the time.

With him, I work off the cuff. He would make the beat right there, and I would make the rap right there. With other producers, sometimes they’ll give me the beat, and I’ll write it at home. I’ve tried to stop doing that.

With Alchemist, as well, I went to his house, and we banged out 14 or 15 records in seven days. I’ve started getting acclimated to writing on the road and on the spot. I just let whatever I feel at the time come out, instead of really sitting there and taking days to write just one song.

Do you feel that it’s coming out better, doing it that way?

Yes and no. I’m a big critic of all my work, but I think that all the songs I did with Party Supplies are amazing mixtape songs. It’s a great mixtape. It’s not an album. There’s samples from all over the place, and I wasn’t in the same mindset as I would be if I was writing an album.

I’m proud of everything that I do. I don’t do shit that I don’t like. I don’t put shit out that I don’t like, because if I don’t like it... Sometimes, you know people are going to like shit that you don’t like, but if I don’t like it, it’s not coming out. Because at the end of the day, I make the decisions in my career and in my life.

It’s important to have control of your brand. You’re getting more notoriety. Is it a struggle to still be who you want to be and do everything the way you want to do it?

Sometimes it’s a struggle, but I’ll tell you this; no one’s going to change me and what I think. I’m a fucking stubborn piece of shit. I’m a piece of work, man. I will do what I want, at all times, always. Nobody’s going to persuade me one way or another. I can’t be persuaded. I take criticism, I listen, I analyze, but at the end of the day, I make the decisions. Because that’s the way I started, and that’s the way I’m going to finish.

If I leave it up to someone else, and they fuck up, then I’m going to be tight at them. I’d rather just be tight at myself if it’s fuck up and work harder. So, at this point, no. No one’s going to sway me.

Of course, Dante will tell me, “You need to try and make a more radio-conducive song.” But that’s just him being a manager. That’s not anything wrong. It’s just him doing what he knows will work. Me—being naive and wet-behind-the-ears—I feel like I can fucking change the world.

 

It’s been proven that you don’t need to be on the radio. It’s not me that’s going to break this rule, because it’s been proven already. You don’t need to be on the radio to make a decent living, or an amazing living, in this game. They’re special cases, but I feel like I could be that special case.

 

You seem like the type of dude to be like, “Man, we might not even need to be on the radio anymore.”

It’s been proven that you don’t need to be on the radio. It’s not me that’s going to break this rule, because it’s been proven already. You don’t need to be on the radio to make a decent living, or an amazing living, in this game. They’re special cases, but I feel like I could be that special case.

If you come out with a radio joint, it’s going to be because that’s how it came out. It’s not going to be because I crafted it for that. It’ll be because people genuinely feel it and are fucking with it.

It’s not going to be because I was in the studio with a fucking vocal coach, and people were giving me melodies and harmonizing. It’s not going to be that way, unless I want it that way. I’m not saying that’s not going to happen, but more than likely it’s not going to happen.

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