When a trailer leaked last December of the long-awaited A Tribe Called Quest Documentary, it was titled Beats Rhymes & Fights. The final version, which will hit theatres July 8, carries the much tamer title, Beats, Rhymes And Life: The Travels of A Tribe Called Quest. Unfortunately the first title might have been more appropriate given the ugly public back-and-fourth that director Michael Rapaport, who’s also acted in films like Higher Learning, Beautiful Girls, and Hitch, has been engaged in with the group over everything from creative differences to whether or not they deserved a producer credit on the film. Q-Tip even took to Twitter at one point to state that he doesn’t support the film.
Recently ATCQ conducted an extensive interview with MTV in which they took Rapaport to task for everything from not respecting their edit requests to not paying for their travel accomodations for the Sundance Film Festival screening to a damning email they mistakenly received where one of the movie’s producers says “we'll fuck them on everything else” when referring to the group. Given that Rapaport is known to be a huge Tribe fan, it was only right that Complex got him on the phone to explain his side of the story.
Interview By Toshitaka Kondo (@ToshitakaKondo)
You basically spoke to every key player for this documentary. Was there anyone that you didn’t get to interview that you wanted to?
The biggest person that I did not get to interview because she was so busy and we just missed each other in passing was Queen Latifah. I’ve known her for a while and obviously she knows the group and has a relationship with the group, and it was just a scheduling thing. It was definitely disappointing because she is the Queen and her presence is immense.
A humorous moment in the film was when Prince Paul talked about not being invited to be on the Midnight Marauders cover. You ever find out exactly why?
That's a good question. I don't know why he was not invited to the Midnight Marauders cover shoot. He did not give an answer or a reason why, he just did not make it on to the cover, which I felt was a funny little sidebar in the movie, ‘cause everybody was on that cover. He made light about it, but you have to ask Q-tip.
I know in the documentary the members of Tribe talk about how Jarobi was the spirit of ATCQ, but it’s still not really fully explained what he does.
From what I got from all the information and interviews that I've had, I think that, like Q-Tip said in the movie, Jarobi is the spirit of ATCQ. He grew up with them, and I know at one point he did do tracks for Low End Theory and then around the same time while they were making Low End Theory, he left the group, but he's always sort of been around.
I know he is still close with all of them, and you can tell that from the film. His relationship with Phife is really something special. They're like family, so I think at some point he was definitely gonna rap, I just think none of the stuff made it to albums and he had other things he wanted to do with his life. He has a career as a chef and I think that Jarobi was sort of reluctant with the idea of being a star.
Even though he left, it didn’t seem like it was beef, so why were his verses taken off The Low End Theory?
That's a Q-Tip question. I don't have a real answer as to why the verses were taken off. I think that when you are in a partnership with people that you are really truly friends with, it can be challenging, because when you mix business with personal, sometimes there can be little hiccups.
Do you have any idea what songs Jarobi actually had verses on? Did you get to hear any of them ever?
That is a good question. Phife says in the movie he had verses on things. I heard an outtake where a lot of people were on, I think it was “Rap Promoter.” A lot of people did make the eventual song, but Jarobi could flow and beatbox when beatboxing was an essential thing. If you are a Tribe fan and ask members of Tribe, Jarobi is A Tribe Called Quest.
In the documentary, one thing that I thought was interesting was how it doesn’t really go into how on Beats, Rhymes and Life all of a sudden Consequence was all over the album and J Dilla got brought into the production fold. Did they ever talk about any of that stuff?
They talked about Consequence and the J Dilla stuff. It was so sort of complicated and J Dilla meant so much to fans it was something that I ended up skimming over in the film because it felt like to go into Consequence and J Dilla and give it the time it deserves, you know J Dilla deserves his own movie. If it’s not a story about the four guys, a lot of stuff had to get cut out of the movie because there's so many different things.
Busta Ryhmes is in the movie, but I had a ten-minute sequence on Busta Rhymes and a six-minute sequence on Large Professor. I wanted to do more stuff on the Jungle Brothers, but at a certain point it’s like you have 90 minutes to tell the story and there's four guys and there's a lot of screen time I'm taking up. Definitely you have to make choices in the editing room to what is important to the story, or the story that I am trying to tell.
Could some of that stuff be on the DVD as extras?
Oh yeah, definitely, cause J Dilla and Large Professor were essential to Tribe. Consequence was important to Beats, Rhymes and Life, which I think is an underrated album. That Beats, Rhymes and Life period was definitely sort of the beginning of the end of the group. That will be for super Tribe heads, but there is a lot of stuff that we shot that exists. Consequence gave a great interview.
In the film we definitely see the tension between Phife and Q-Tip, especially when they almost get into a physical altercation backstage at a stop of Rock The Bells, but it’s never really explained why they broke up. What do you think happened from your perspective?
I think that the group broke up because from my perspective they created something with those first three albums that was like lightening in a bottle. It was so special and it captured the hearts of people that listened to it. It still does and I think going forward the business was changing. The first three albums were very sample-heavy so the rules and budgets for sampling got increasingly bigger so I think that was an issue.
I think that the group was getting more and more frustrated with their deal with the record label. I think that with Q-Tip and Phife, the group’s relationships had started to run its course. I think that it was kind of like a crime when someone is like, “I want to try to do something different. I want to do a solo album.” It’s looked at almost like you are cheating on a lover and Q-Tip is a tremendous artist and his sort of wanting to push his artistry, it wouldn't take long. Phife wanted to do a solo album and those guys have been friends since they were four years old. So for them, you're in this group, now you're stars, you're rich, and it was like who’s better? Who’s running the group? Who’s the man?
Those things came into play in the group and I think that it just ran its course. I feel that the one thing that I could appreciate about ATCQ in regards to the breakup is that they weren't trying to duplicate People's Instinctive Travels. You can never capture that again. They moved on and were always trying to evolve as artists so I think they were just like, “Let’s just leave it. We did this and this was great and it's time to move forward.” Of course as a fan you want more, but I think that their functional relationships within ATCQ became dysfunctional.
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SmokinAcesLTL April 14th, 2011 at 05:02 PM
Yo this nigga Michael Rapport is a G yo! Dude went in.
Dee Phunk April 14th, 2011 at 05:21 PM
I'm picturing Michael Rapaport shoving all four ATCQ members under a bus, running to the front, backing up over them, driving forward, backing up one more time and driving off.
aaron martinez April 14th, 2011 at 05:25 PM
Good interview.
James April 14th, 2011 at 05:28 PM
Ha, bottom line is Michael Rappaport has invested time and more importantly money in this project that he can't afford to lose. His argument isn't very compelling at times and makes him look like a hip hop Perez Hilton, but I guess it makes sense from a business perspective. I don't think he is very concerned with Tribe making more music as much as he is concerned with seeing a return on his investment. Anyway, Tribe doesn't need to put out any new music...they didn't leave on the greatest note (The Love Movement) and they obviously don't get along well as a unit, so why force the issue exactly ? Can't groups stop while they are a bit ahead or do they have to continue recording until they totaling suck? On the other hand, as much as I love and admire Tip, I could totally see him being a little unrealistic and maybe changing his attitude and feelings towards the project ( a project that doesnt exactly show him in the greatest of lights) after two and a half years... as he doesnt have as much invested as Rappaport does... but then again, who knows?, this could all be fabricated controversy to get more exposure for the film
K April 15th, 2011 at 07:08 AM
I've grown up searching out Michael Rapaport's face in movies, supporting his career, even hunting down obscure films like Special, because I liked what he brought to screen. But this interview just left a bad taste in my mouth. Michael Rapaport is coming across as a whiny, double-speaking dude who didn't get his way and is now stomping his feet and pouting over his favorite band ruining his big film debut. (Almost as though they owe him for taking this on.) He sounds like a shady guy, who thought he would get some big Oscar documentary nod/heavy recognition, or at least have his name attached to something ground-breaking; it doesn't seem to be panning out that way. Quoting him: "This wasn’t a behind-the-scenes or making-of or DVD extra, I’m trying to make a movie that’s entertaining, fulfilling, and informative." However, a doc is every bit of a behind the scenes feature, where the subject(s) and event(s) speak for themselves, with little to no interjection. It doesn't sound like over the course of those 2 years, Rapaport made his direction and end goal clear. It might turn out to be all hype for the doc., but it seems like Rapaport tried to inject too much of his own voice/perspective where it doesn't belong. All the not so subtle digs about ATCQ's supposed lack of business acumen and professionalism are unnecessary. Additionally, trying to stir the pot and then take his hands off by claiming to simply be "an actor" only serves to make him look petty.
Skylar April 19th, 2011 at 08:37 AM
Pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. Rapaport comes off as very self-serving and it's pretty ridiculous he threw that little "The Low-End Smear Me" crack in there because this actor-turnt-director literally just smeared one of the greatest producer/rappers in the game, repeatedly, in this interview. Moreover, he continually and repeatedly keeps airing out "his favorite group" and their "dysfunction" like it's his business. Of course the "documentary" is unauthorized. Just read this interview. Dude obviously has his own agenda and referring to this as a documentary is false. I doubt I'll even watch the movie, knowing what I know now. 'Tip controlling? After reading "your side" Mr. Rapaport, I think you should look in the mirror.
RJ July 21st, 2011 at 08:54 PM
K + Skylar = truth. Rapaport showed his true colors in this interview. Despite all his claims about being a "fan" of Tribe and hip-hop, he proves himself to be just another exploiter of black popular culture. He smiles in their faces but has no problem throwing them under the bus to make himself look good. Not only that, he accuses ATCQ of trying to take credit as producers without doing the work, yet he sits back and does the same thing with his movie (using their success story to make a film, then low balling them on the profits and credit). What a scumbag!
Phife April 15th, 2011 at 09:15 AM
I dunno, seems like everyone from ATCQ is normal except Q-Tip, which makes sense. He's always seemed like the controlling type, the queen bee in every decision. at the same time, this could all be a huge publicity stunt where both parties are trying to hype up the movie by having this little beef (i.e, more people will want to see it = more money for them).
dmfslimm April 15th, 2011 at 10:34 AM
those scenes he took out that he said will never make it to film got me wanting to see them and the movie more. im starting to wonder about q tip, tho. and an original song for the movie would be tight. good read.
Pete Marriott April 15th, 2011 at 11:56 AM
Fuck all the bullshit back and forth between Tribe and Rappaport, just get the fuck on with it and show us the fucking movie already.
Tall Tree April 15th, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Preach, Pete.
drew everyday April 15th, 2011 at 04:35 PM
bottom line: somebody made a feature length film about a hip hop group that was good enough to play sundance AND warrant a theatrical release! who cares who has a bad taste in their mouth about what they did or didn't get in the film or on the poster and dvd box. there's an ATCQ movie coming out! and to be honest, rapaport was right that nobody stood or stands to make more money from this than tribe. they'd be only the third hip hop act with an oscar nod (there's no way an original tribe song doesn't get nominated), a documentary show would make bank, and if rapaport's being truthful, they're getting half the film and the whole soundtrack! i'll reserve my judgement on the tone for when i see it, which i totally am going to do