Dennis Rodman won three NBA titles with the Bulls while playing alongside Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen from 1995 through 1998. So you would think that he would have some great stories about all the fun times he spent with those guys. But during an interview for the next episode of In Depth With Graham Bensinger, Rodman talked about how he never spoke with MJ or Pippen during his time in Chicago, outside of their interactions on the court.

“I didn’t think it was important,” he said. “I thought it was important for me to go there and win…I don’t have to have a job to speak to people. My job is to correlate and understand how people work and do one thing and make people believe the fact that you belong there. You know, talking to people will come. Relating to people will come. If they see you performing and doing your job and being with the group, that’s all I want…Me and Scottie and Michael never had a conversation in three years in Chicago. Only time we had a conversation was on the court.”

How is that even possible? Not one convo in three years? Crazy.

Rodman’s interview with Bensinger is scheduled to air this weekend. He also talks about his relationship with Madonna, his partying days, and—welp—the time he pierced his scrotum.

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