Donald Trump’s shocking election win proved that the presidency is fair game for any and all TV personalities who might have their sights set on the White House. Just don’t expect Oprah Winfrey to throw her hat into the ring any time soon. 

After probing her about whether or not she thinks Michelle Obama will ever run for office (for the record, she doesn’t) on Tuesday night, Stephen Colbert not-so-subtly wondered if Winfrey herself would ever consider a career in politics. "Is there any charismatic African-American woman that both sides of the political aisle really love?" Colbert asked, with his tongue planted firmly in his cheek. "Never!" Winfrey replied, dashing the hopes of soccer moms everywhere. "No, it’s not my thing."

And she should know. Winfrey has had a first hand peek at what life in the White House would look like, thanks to her airtight bond with the Obama family, and in particular The First Lady, who she interviewed recently for CBS. When asked about what she’ll miss most about Michelle—who she first interviewed eight years ago when her daughters, Sasha and Malia, were still "baby children"—Winfrey said, "For me, you know, African-American woman, being able to see that reflection of myself through the girls and through her, just their presence there, I’m going to miss that."

She’s not the only one. An October poll from NBC News and the Wall Street Journal revealed that the First Lady is one of the most well-liked public figures in the country. That’s Oprah-level popularity, which the television icon has crafted with the kind of careful maneuvering she pulled off Tuesday, when a TMZ reporter asked what makes her nervous about Donald Trump. "I’m smart enough not to comment on that," Winfrey said while signing autographs outside CBS studios in New York. "I didn’t do 38,000 interviews to get stuck with that one."

You can watch Oprah's interview with Colbert in the clip above.