Jared Leto on the Kanye West and Taylor Swift Drama: Kanye's "a Friend and Has Always Been"

Jared Leto talks Kanye West and Taylor Swift, his take on masculinity, and his early childhood in a new interview.

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The whirlwind of Jared Leto's Suicide Squadpress tour has brought with it a swamp of bizarre yet unsurprising gets (like his tale of a Halloween party with an S&M room, where his tech bros lined up to get spanked). The parade of coverage continued this morning with the publication of a GQ Style interview, where Leto talks Kanye and Taylor, his take on masculinity, and his early childhood.

Below, the most Leto-like Leto-isms:

1. He didn't know what Roger Waters looked like:

"I never had pictures of people on my wall. I never had celebrity obsessions. Even the music I listen to. My favorite band was Pink Floyd. I don’t think I knew what they looked like when I was in my 20s. I knew what their artwork looked like, and I knew every lyric of every song on Dark Side of the Moon. 

2. His prep for Suicide Squad took him to some dark places:

"There was a point where I was researching violence and was watching a lot of things that…things that it’s arguable if anybody should even see. And I noticed that started to have an impact on me that I didn’t like, so I stopped. It starts to just get inside of you, violence and some of those things."

3. He thinks the cast of Suicide Squad legitimately enjoyed being sent anal beads, rats, and used condoms:

"When I was on set, I think everybody in the crew was really happy to see the Joker again when he came back out. Because he’s a lot of fun to be around and to watch. You never know what he’s going to do next. He’s so spontaneous, and has no rules, that it was nice to entertain the troops, so to speak."

4. He thinks he's a better musician than actor:

"I think I’m better onstage than almost anything I’ve ever done in my life. That’s where I excel the most. We’ve toured and played so many shows. Years and years and years of touring. I think that’s probably where I thrive the most."

5. He agrees with Elon Musk that this whole charade we call life is probably not even real:

"I’m not even sure this is all real. This could be a simulation, you know? If you look at VR these days and then compare it to the first manned controlled flight by the Wright brothers in 1903 or 1904, whatever it is, and how far we’ve come in just that short amount of time, who knows what VR is gonna be 100 years from now. I think that we’ll be able to generate and send what we perceive as a dream."

6. He will not take sides on the Kanye-Taylor drama:

"[Kanye's] a friend and has always been. Kanye has always been the nicest person to me, kind and generous. I think he’s a talent, and I really appreciate his ability to speak his mind. I’m very different. I’m very careful and cautious because I don’t want to deal with the other things that come along with speaking out like that. [...]

7. He doesn't think a gay leading man "would have the same opportunities as a straight leading man":

"I don’t think that. Not for a single second. I don’t know if that’s offensive or not, but that’s my thought right now. It shouldn’t be that way. I don’t think you’ll have as many opportunities. And I think you could say the same for minorities. What a word, “minority.” Have we taken that word off the list yet? ‘Cause it should be. Anyway, no, I think that this is still a very conservative business."

The world waits with bated breath for Leto's next interview. 

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