Why do you think black women and Asian men find themselves in this situation where they are not considered to be desirable partners?

In terms of casting, it’s harder for Black women to get those jobs and it’s hard for Asian men to get those jobs because it’s a question of "are they considered attractive, are they approachable?" A lot of the times they’re only presented in ways in which they’re "otherized." Or presented as tropes. “It’s a Chinatown story, let’s get a Chinese guy.” “It’s a Grace Jones story, let’s get a Black girl in here.” “She’s not dark enough. Oh, paint her black.” Even though she’s already Black. There’s that thing in fashion where they’re just there to sell magazines or sell product. The thing is, I think that happens in the real world.

Yeah, and I think it’s influenced by our culture and media and our history. That’s why I think it’s really important to have images of diversity in my line of work and start a dialogue. Fashion itself is not responsible for this. They keep doing it because it works.