Jai Paul is certainly not an easy artist to pin down. After dropping our jaws in 2011 with the beautiful “BTSTU,” Jai Paul has gone on to almost completely stay away from any type of spotlight. He resurfaced briefly in 2012, but only to return to the shadows after releasing the fantastic song, “Jasmine.” Since then, rumors have been swirling around the prospect of a Jai Paul full-length debut album—an official one that is—not like the “leak” that we saw last year that prompted this response from his label.

That label is independent British label XL Recordings, whose studio manager took some time to sit down for an interview with Dazed Digital. Manager Rodaidh McDonald gives some insight on the inner circle of XL, and reveals just a little bit about working with the “enigma,” that is Jai Paul.

I did something with him last week, some vocal production on a new song. We finished it, whether he wants to put it out or not I don’t know. It’s just a very long process for him I guess, he’s been working on (his album) for years. One of the things that I sort of identified was that he might benefit from some help using vocals. But his music sounds so good, he doesn’t need any help, I think he’s perfect.

Read the full interview with studio-manager Rodaidh McDonald, where he talks about The xx, King Krule, and Sampha, here, via Dazed.