More women are going public recently with fresh accusations of abuse and sexual coercion against R. Kelly. As the music industry and pop culture world starts to turn their back on the alleged abuser—most notably with the #MuteRKelly campaign—more light is shed on who the R&B singer is.

Wendy Williams spoke about Kelly on her talk show recently, revealing she is considering an interview with Kelly. Williams also shared that she’s met with the artist in his studio, and she touched on some of the shocking things that he told her. 

“I’m not going to even belabor the point,” Williams said, per Page Six. “I know things about R. Kelly that I will take to my grave—unless he tells them.”

“And also, Robert, it’s long been said and he actually did admit this to me, I was shocked he was actually admitting this—because he can’t read, he can’t write, and he can’t add,” she said. “I won’t tell you about how he maneuvers through the world.”

Although Wendy’s claim sound wild, Kelly has spoken about the fact that he can’t read very well in the past. For example, in a 2009 interview with Chicago NBC 5, he said:

“I don’t even read really and I’m not afraid to say that. My cousins and brothers used to tease me, ‘You can’t even read right. How you think you’re going to come up?’ The only reason I graduated from grammar school is because I had a great jump shot.”

Williams asked her audience if they’d be offended if she got Kelly on to do an interview. They all agreed they wouldn’t be, so Williams ran with that, suggesting she might have him on the show sometime soon, which would definitely be, well... interesting. 

This isn't the first time Williams has had some curious thoughts on Kelly. Back in January, Williams said accusations made against the singer, which included having an "abusive cult," were "10 years too late" and said that some of the most disturbing accusations against him—like, for example, peeing on an underage girl—happened with the girl's consent, and therefore it's less of a problem. It's a weird opinion, and she only made it weirder by using the situation to knock on the #MeToo movement.  

"I love that people are speaking up for the first time and speaking out and everything, but now it's got, I look at all men like you're a #MeToo, all of them, all of them, which is not fair," Williams said.