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Scarface on The Combat Jack Show Ep. 1

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Combat Jack:

North, south, east, west, very few MC's are as respected as this man. Former member of the seminal rap group, Ghetto Boys. Pioneer of southern hip hop, internet, I bring to the Combat Jack Show tonight, Mr. Scarface. What's up son? Yo, what's up Face?

Scarface:

Y'all know you're not that goddamn happy to see me.

Combat Jack:

I'm very happy to see you man. Yo, welcome to New York man.

Scarface:

I love it out here man.

Combat Jack:

What are you doing out here man. I heard you moved out here bro.

Scarface:

I kind of live in New York a little bit now.

Combat Jack:

What is that about man?

Scarface:

There's a lot of shit going on out here.

Combat Jack:

I think this is fascinating man, because across the board man, people consider you one of the greatest rappers of all times, one of the greatest mc's of all times.

Scarface:

I don't consider myself that.

Combat Jack:

But people do. Your surroundings do. The critics. The authorized taste makers believe that.

Scarface:

That's their fault.

Combat Jack:

The Source magazine had you at number 17 of all time.

Scarface:

Really?

Combat Jack:

Yeah.

Scarface:

That's kind of cool.

Combat Jack:

I mean I think that's very cool.

Scarface:

As long as they remember me. Out of 12 million motherfuckers trying to rap, they still remember me.

Combat Jack:

But you got...

Combat Jack:

How many people on Combat were willing to open up the onion when you talk about the mind, when you talk about like the frailty of the mind? That' shit is still the most incredible thing to admit. Yo, I might be losing my mind. Like, let's go back to that. Because I think that was the record. And you and the Ghetto Boys at the time, "My Mind's Playing Tricks on Me", we had never heard a record like that.

Scarface:

I did that record. I produced that record.

Combat Jack:

I know you did. Like how did you come up with that record? Because that's the first time...

Scarface:

My grandmother has a book of shit that she says.

Combat Jack:

Right.

Scarface:

And if you look at it, I can't look at it, because it it just fucking breaks me down. It makes me remember when I was a little boy, and just growing up in her house, my grandma, and she's still alive. 84 years old going on 85. She's not letting no grass grow under her feet, she's alive. You know what I mean?

Combat Jack:

She's active.

Scarface:

Yeah, you've got some 85 year olds...

Combat Jack:

With a little drool.

Scarface:

You have to wipe they ass.

Combat Jack:

That's not grandma.

Combat Jack:

In the wheelchair.

Scarface:

And she's still strong. Like, I don't shake her hand, because she squeeze my hand so hard. I'm serious. If you ever met her, hold your hand out there and let her squeeze your shit. She's got got a book of, and the kids did it. Where all the things that grandma says. Everything, a lot of shit my grandma says, and it's funny as hell. And they are titles for records. And the minute I get enough courage to open that book and read those titles, because it fucks me up so bad. It fucks me up so bad to open that book man, because it's our whole fucking...

Combat Jack:

History in a sense.

Scarface:

... in that book, with that lady. It's a cold, cold, cold, piece of work. I remember I was doing it on MTV, and we was in the middle of it. And I opened that book man, I just... We was right in the middle of this shit.

Combat Jack:

Right.

Scarface:

And I was reaching for that shit and I was just like...

Combat Jack:

Were you the writer for most of the entries there in the book?

Scarface:

Hell no, she was, my grandmother was. The kids wrote the shit down. But, this shit is crazy, man.

Combat Jack:

So getting back to Mind Playing Tricks on Me.

Scarface:

That's her saying. She'll be talking and shit, I remember this. Like grandma what the hell. I, I'm sorry dog, my mind most be playing tricks on me. Because I could have swore I had my bible sitting right here. And I wrote a record. I wrote the three verses. I wrote, "At night I can't sleep". And then I wrote the, "Day by day it's more impossible to cope..." And then I wrote, "That this year Halloween fell on a weekend..." Those were my three verses. Willie D put a verse in there. Now, I remember when I initially recorded a record, the Ghetto Boys was wrapping up the, "We Can't Be Stopped", album. Now I was working on my solo album, and my mind playing tricks was due to go on my solo album that was going to follow the "We Can't Be Stopped" album. Alright, when I'm turning in songs. I'm getting spoon fed money here and here and here and here. To take care of myself and what not. I'm throwing up songs, and that song is one of the songs that was supposed to make the album. But shit Jay played that record I guess. I don't know how it happened, but I guess he most have played it for the people at Priority or whatever, and they talking about how big that fucking big that record was.

Combat Jack:

Going back to your first record. I want to take you back, Premium, hold up that record man.

Scarface:

Please don't hold it.

Combat Jack:

Look at that. That's Mr. Scarface right there. What's going on through your mind when you was taking that picture man. With you mean mugging the camera right there man.

A:

Shit.

Combat Jack:

And that Bowler hat, it's so serious.

Combat Jack:

And the licks was so pressed. What's going on there man?

Scarface:

Motherfucking money. That money. Yeah, I was fresh out the corner too. I still had the corner on my face, look at that. I need some powder, you see that corner.

Combat Jack:

You need some make up on your face right there.

Scarface:

I need some make up on my face that's straight, that's straight corner. Straight out that corner.

Combat Jack:

That's crazy, I look at that image I see about six rappers. I see about six rappers in there. I see six of your children in that picture.

Scarface:

Yeah.

Combat Jack:

You seen them. You see how many children you got.

Scarface:

Let me see, you know what, it's a Ghetto Boys picture too. Turn it around.

Combat Jack:

Look at that.

Scarface:

Yeah. He talking about fucking [inaudible 06:44] you know that's real money, right?

Combat Jack:

Real shotgun too, right.

Scarface:

Real motherfucking shot gun too. That's really somebody's house.

Combat Jack:

That's another thing. Like coming from New York, and you guys were like the first window I saw from Texas. Like you guys were that window, because you know New York is very closed minded.

Scarface:

That's why I'm tripping out every time I, dude, if you get in the car, close the door, turn the radio on and close your eyes, you'll think you're somewhere else.

Combat Jack:

Now that's another question I wanted to ask you later on, but I'm going to ask you right now, man. How do you feel about the Houston influence being so prevalent all over the place, particularly in New York right now. You got the ASAP Rockies, in a sense paying homage to that sound, you know, how do you feel about that? You got cats sipping lean right now, in New York.

Scarface:

I mean definitely trend setters. You know, Houston's got some trendsetter, but New York is trendsetters too. You know what I'm saying?

Combat Jack:

Of course, but it seems like now we're trend setting other peoples trends.

Scarface:

Following the trend.

Combat Jack:

Exactly.

Scarface:

I would never... From back then when I started, from going to do new music seminar and getting booed; to coming out here and fucking in the front of everybody's line when I walk up, Face, you know, I would have never thought that. To be, you know, shut out by the back packers, like we don't want to play that shit up here. To hearing 2 Chains on the radio out here. I'm like whoa.

Combat Jack:

So how's that make you feel? Is it a sense of pride?

Scarface:

I don't really feel nothing. I feel like...That's a train.

Combat Jack:

That's a train. We in the hood.

Scarface:

Cool.

Combat Jack:

The Combat Jack Show is in your hood.

Scarface:

It goddamn sure is. You know what I think about when I see that train going up there?

Combat Jack:

What?

Scarface:

Welcome back, that same old place that you laughed about... And the dream that remain..


In part one of the three part interview with Scarface on The Combat Jack Show, the Houston rapper talks about his grandmother, the making of "Mind Playing Tricks On Me," and what it feels like now that New York is finally embracing Houston. Come back on Wednesday May 15th for Part II of the conversation with Scarface where he talks about 2Pac.

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