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Black Thought on The Combat Jack Show Ep. 3

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Combat Jack:

Now, as a MC, because you talked about you know you goin to a college to battle somebody.

Black Thought:

Yeah, yeah.

Combat Jack:

As a MC as your circle of influences is getting wider...

Black Thought:

Yeah.

Combat Jack:

Are there other cats that we now know of that you wanted to battle and you set to battle? Because I know that competitive spirit never leaves me.

Black Thought:

Nobody has ever really wanted it like with me, you know what I'm saying.

Combat Jack:

Really? Nobody ever stepped to you man?

Black Thought:

No, no.

Combat Jack:

Ever, ever?

Black Thought:

No, no, never.

Combat Jack:

Ok.

Black Thought:

Never ever. But you know, like to answer your question further though, somebody that definitely you know changed the game for me was Super Natural. You know what I'm saying? I had, had a girl, my girlfriend she was at Howard University around 1994, like whenever Nas's first album was about to drop. Because I remember she's a writer and I 'member she, she did one of the first stories on Illmatic, so she had a like an advanced copy of Illmatic. So, I listened to that record down there at Howard University and I was like you know I was a little bit shook from that record. Like...

Combat Jack:

Nas had you a little bit shook?

Black Thought:

I was like, I just knew it was going to be a game changer. So there was that, and then I was leaving to go back home from Howard because I planned on comin up to New York to do one of these you know all in, you know, something where all the MC's in New York come out and you have to come off the top type of thing. Like, certain that was right up my alley.

Combat Jack:

Right.

Black Thought:

So, it was a show where like Organized Confusion was going to be there.

Combat Jack:

[Inaudible 01:59]

Black Thought:

You know Farrow, Brisboe.

Q2:

It had to be the SOB's.

Black Thought:

No, it was at the place called the Cooler...

Combat Jack:

Ok.

Black Thought:

Down there and me playing on 14th. So, I'm at the Peter Pan bus station about to take my bus back to Philly, so I could get ready to ride up with Scott Storks to this thing that we were going to do that night. And, I'm smoking a blunt outside the bus and I run into this dude Super Nat you know me, and you know we smoked the L together, we chopped it up, he told me he's a MC, and you know XYZ so then we parted ways. I got on the bus.

Combat Jack:

Right.

Black Thought:

Pound, M Game pound. I got off at Philly. He stayed on coming up to New York. Later on that night, coming up to New York, like the whole purpose because we was courting Rod Zeller at the time.

Combat Jack:

14th.

Black Thought:

We wanted Rod Zellar to be down with the roots. But he was you know he like was an insurance salesman by day and at night he put on a skully and come out and he would rock wit Mohammed and Super Nat. And, I mean, they was on some like you know Wonder Twins, dreadlocks tied together and Rod Zel was like you know I mean The Terminator on the beat box. So, we just was some real ill shit. And, we got to The Cooler and it's time to rock and I'm looking I'm like, "Yo, I just met this nigger this morning, we smoked a blunt in DC, and now this dude is out there with goggles on and like..."

Combat Jack:

Yeah, the goggles.

Black Thought:

And it was filled it was you know all off the top. It had to improvised and it couldn't be you know no music could come from a record, or from any type of a beat machine. It was all either beat box or like you know percussive banging....

Combat Jack:

It was all organic.

Black Thought:

Yeah, it was super organic. And just you know hearing Super Natural flow and you know hearing the amazing that Roz Zel was doing. That just had me shook. I didn't feel like defeated but I went home and just let all of them dudes know like you know what I'm saying, there's these cats in York that I ran into and they up on some shit that's really next level. And that's where we need to be with it, you know what I mean? We need to, you know, that's where we need to set the bar. There or beyond. Whatever y'all doing you know what I mean it's some bullshit. These need to be able to rap you know what I'm saying and spit a rhyme that sounds like we wrote it without writing it, basically. And you know everybody kind of go their weight up from that point on. And the definitely me and Super Nat we went on, you know, to be super homies.

Combat Jack:

That's nice man, that's nice.

Black Thought:

But, that morning in DC smoking an L with dude, I had no idea that he was going to change my life.

Combat Jack:

It was destined in a sense?

Black Thought:

Yeah, absolutely.


In the third episode of Complex TV's Combat Jack Show, he asks Black Thought about getting challenged to battle. "Nobody has ever really wanted it with me," Though replies nonchalantly. "Never ever."

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