Item Idem: It’s been a giant connector. I respect creativity more than anything. As long as you’re a good creative, I adore you. In that scene, it’s incredible how many talented people there are. Maybe it’s just the tip of the iceberg; we don’t know them all yet, but when you can see all these kids that help each other on shoots and work together, you know it’s special. She’s helped put a lot of fresh faces up.


It’s not like the party you go to every Friday where you know what to expect. Every time it comes back, it comes back differently.


Venus X: Something is definitely happening. It’s like the cyclone of everyone’s talents. I liked working on Cyril’s piece because, for instance, I’ve never been to Japan, I’ve never seen a dekotora, and now it’s something I know about and love. I feel like when I was in college learning about art, it didn’t relate to my life at all. I respect it, and I’ll learn about it in order to have conversations with people in this field, but I don’t care. I can understand if something was relevant during its time, but that relevance isn’t here now. Those people are dead, or they’re old, they’re not cool, they’re not subversive anymore, they don’t care about the community, or they can’t care because they have their own families and lives. Now, art, music, what you do during the night, and what you do during the day are all becoming one, and everyone’s on the same field, and we can all talk to each other, collaborate, and engage. It’s cool to have artwork that’s more relevant. It’s funny how people just assign value to art, even if no one relates to it. It doesn’t matter if something costs $100 million, if no one can relate to it or be affected by it. Just because somebody says it’s cool, it trickles down through the necessary channels. It’s just like popstars. Yeah they’re talented, and they’re good, but there’s a lot of marketing and power that’s put behind them, because somebody else is benefitting from it. There are all these cracks in the sidewalk now, all these things that have started sprouting. 

Item Idem: Venus, what else do you have planned besides re-launching GHE20 G0TH1K? I love the format of GHE20 G0TH1K. It’s been warehouse parties, in clubs in the city, illegal, legal, it stops, there’s one party, it comes back, or it stops for three months. Everyone’s addicted, so every time she tweets that GHE20 G0TH1K is coming back, people are excited. It’s not like the party you go to every Friday where you know what to expect. Every time it comes back, it comes back differently.

Venus X: I’m trying to get stable. It’s hard. Nobody knew that this thing would transform the scene and bring so many people together to be creative and open up new doors. A lot of competition and new parties come with it. There’s an energy that’s lost when there’s consistency. There’s a reason to be fresh, new, and not overdoing it, or wearing it all the way until it’s done. We’re constantly pushing the refresh button. If there’s nothing new to put out there, we don’t need to rape people to make money. The whole year that I haven’t been throwing the party, I’ve been running around DJing other cities and catching people up to speed.

There are a lot of men in this DJ community, and also a lot of nerds and people like me who are just good at what they do, even if I’m not super good and haven’t been doing it that long. That’s opening the door for this to become a new sound, as opposed to just us looking for artists and putting them on. We’re giving our local friends time to cultivate their talent. The reason why everything was so successful before was because there was this new wave of people, who had never been heard before and no one was paying attention to them. Now, everyone’s obsessed with them. All of a sudden, in 2012, everyone wants to hire these DJs, but three years ago, no one would put them on a party.

Until there’s that next wave and that new energy of talent, I’m not just gonna throw a party, just for people to say that they went. Fuck you. No. They all want it. You didn’t want to come to this nerdy party three years ago, you thought it was so awkward, but now everyone’s a goth and a punk and fashionable. We’re not paid, and we’re also not excited about this. When you guys get over your little moment where goth is trending, and there are new people that need a voice, we’ll come back.

This is about a platform. At the end of the day, where there’s a will, there’s a way, and when there’s a necessity for it, things will be provided. There was a necessity for it. There was so much great talent and music that people just weren’t giving a fuck about, because of racism, tradition, and all these different things.

There wouldn’t be an A$AP Rocky being all fashionable and emo right now if it wasn’t for brown kids throwing raves for years in New York, making it ok for us and the word goth to be together. This isn’t just about fashion or about now, this is about our whole lives being able to go somewhere and have a good time and listen to music from all around the world, being made by kids like us that just wanna hear something besides the radio.

Item Idem: I’m going to China to launch a fake Art Biennale, posing as a real fashion brand, or maybe it's the opposite. It’s called Shanzhai Biennial. It’s a large and ongoing project that I have been working on for about a year now with my collaborator, Babak Radboy. It starts at the end of September as an official commission for Beijing Design Week and will then reappear virally and sporadically in many different cities around the world in different formats and shapes. FELON will possibly go to Miami for Art Basel in December. If we manage to do it, maybe Venus can DJ on it again with our gang of friends — Telfar, $hayne, and more. It would be pretty major.  

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