Moving to music, what’s the message you and Madlib are trying to send with your latest work?

Just be afraid. I got some things in the pipeline coming up. I just don’t think that anybody is doing what I’m doing or rhyming the way I do.

What’s the process been like working with Madlib?

It’s been dope, it’s been crazy. He’d send me some weird ass sample, and then it’s my job to make something out of it. You start with some big lump of clay, and I got to mold it. We shoot back and forth and we have to mold it into something, then it just comes out to something crazy like Thuggin’. There aren’t any other records like that out. I wasn’t shooting for trying to make a so-called “single” these days. If you’re lookin’ for that, if you’re looking for what’s on the radio right now and what everybody dances to, then don’t even bother with this Madlib shit I’m about to do. Don’t even fuck with it. That’s not what I’m doing with this. I’m just making something that really hasn’t been done. Madlib hasn’t really worked with my type of artist before, and I haven’t worked with a guy like Madlib, so I just think this is something special, something dope.

For you personally, is it something similar to your old style or something completely new?

I’m not changing my style of rap. You’re going to get me over Madlib beats. I’m not about to rap differently or do something weird. It’s going to be the same gangster shit, the same subject matter, just over different production. It’s going to bring it out in a different way.

What’s it been like getting work with all the big names lately. “Talk to Me” had Young Jeezy, Eminem, and Travis Barker all on one track.

It was dope. Shouts out to Jeezy. I just wish it would have been on Jeezy’s album, but you know how that industry red tape shit goes.

Have you had to deal with a lot of that?

There are politics in this shit. If you ain’t down with certain people and what they’re about, then they don’t fuck with you. That’s just how that shit goes. I don’t really give a fuck. I do what I do and move how I move. If they fuck with me, then you know who you are, you can holler at me. I’m not too worried about this world of entertainment and the people in it. I punch my clock like the rest of these motherfuckers and get my bread up. These motherfuckers put they drawers on every day and bleed just like I do, so I don’t put anything extra or treat them differently than I treat the next guy. That’s what they want, though. They want you to put them on a pedestal, because they are who they are, but respect goes a long way with me, and you got to give it to get it.

You released a lyric book after A Cold Day in Hell dropped. What was your thought process behind that?

It was just something cool to do, something different. When everybody goes left, I’m gonna go right most of the time. I just wanted to throw something out there, because I write all my own lyrics.

If you’re looking for what’s on the radio right now and what everybody dances to, then don’t even bother with this Madlib shit I’m about to do. Don’t even fuck with it. That’s not what I’m doing with this.


Aside from the Madlib project, what else do you have coming up?

I’m probably about to drop some new shit, a new mixtape soon. I’m just workin’. I’m about to come out with a variety of things. I’m about to do a project with Ski Beatz, that’s my homie, we just choppin’ it up. You’re going to see a lot of Freddie Gibbs. Me and Dame are up in this movie thing together, too.

Aside from yourself, who do you like that’s coming up?

I like K.R.I.T., I like Kendrick Lamar, he’s dope, I like A$AP Rocky, my homeboy Y.P. from Chicago, there are a lot of guys. I could sit here all day and name dudes that I fuck with. My homeboy Schoolboy Q. We out here working, and I’m just thankful to be in this game and be able to turn a profit off of this shit.

A lot of people were saying that 2011 was the year of the white rapper. What do you think of that?

I don’t really know, because I don’t really listen to that shit. I’m in my own world when it comes to this rap shit. I don’t really look at it as a color thing, so maybe I never really looked at it from that standpoint. If you tell me your story, and you’re from where you’re from, then that’s it. Cause whether you’re white or black, ain’t none of these motherfuckers me. I don’t give a fuck if they white, black, purple, it is what it is. A lot of these fuckers, white or black, are fucking up the rap game putting out bullshit music.

What’d you think of Mac Miller with his independent success?

I heard about it. I don’t really fuck with it, but I don’t really know it. I hear of it and see it, and we have mutual people that I know, it’s just not my style of rap. It’s dope if you fuck with it, though. I’m not knocking it whatsoever. The type of shit I bump is just different than what he makes.

Ever listen to Machine Gun Kelly?

No, not at all. Nah, never [laughs]. Like I said though, doesn’t matter the color or year of the white rapper or whatever. You’re either whack or dope.

Anything else you want to add?

Just fuck with Freddie Gibbs. Put that in your tape deck.

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