Who are a couple of the new artist you’re trying to bring on this album?
T-black, Trey Williams, Sinner, that niggas crazy he is on my joint. I was trying to get a few artist that Quan signed at Atlantic, I was trying to figure out what’s going to happen with that , so I was trying to see if I could fit this shit on the album.
Have you recorded with Quan for that one?
We got something that we’re trying to put together for that one so, I don’t know if it’s going to make it.
Yeah, just trying to figure out that situation. A lot of times I don’t fuck with artists because...same reason I probably won't be a president until I’m about three years from now probably, if that’s the case. If record labels are still the same way they are now. Cause you’re going to see a lot of changes within the next years in the industry. But the only way I could deal with artists, is not going to be close unless them niggas is on some real shit.
So many artists crave too much attention, they want to microwave and speed themselves up to your career overnight and they get upset with the negative trying to help them. I'm always putting ni**as in the game but I'm also quick to say, ‘F**k a nigga’ because I don't have the time in my life for bulls**t.
Cause so many artists crave too much attention, they want to microwave and speed themselves up to your career overnight and they get upset with the negative trying to help them. So my mode is: ‘I can’t turn my back. I’m always putting niggas in the game but I’m also quick to say, ‘Fuck a nigga’ because I don’t have the time in my life for bullshit. If we’re friends, niggas think we supposed to wake up in the morning and think about them niggas, that’s what you have management for.
Then niggas start calling me like we aren’t best friends, like I’m deliberately doing something to them and it’s hard for these niggas. If you can make it around me, you a stone cold motherfucking real motherfucking nigga cause I intimidate a lot of motherfuckers. And it’s hard, their brain gets scrambled if they come around me and their shit isn’t right, suddenly they shit falls apart, if they start fucking with me, because there’s nothing but realism over here.
So I hate to say they couldn’t survive a third of a third of a third, of my career and that’s not to diss them. It saddens me when I see they’re not built for it. I try to tell them but motherfuckers want fast rewards not just money. But these niggas want to be Diddy tomorrow. So they have unrealistic goals. So it’s hard for me to deal with a lot of artists if they try to be up underneath a nigga. But I’m trying to get this nigga Quan’s shit together and there’s some niggas that’s hollering right now that I’m feeling.
I know for a short period of time a lot of people thought you weren’t dealing with Quan anymore, so are guys working together again?
Nah, I don’t deal with it hands on quite frankly. He works with me, he deals with the artists that can’t get to me till’ they get some strife, then we could hang.
There was talk that you guys don’t speak anymore, are you guys back on talking terms and everything is cool?
I mean there was never a time niggas were speaking it was just, in terms of music, let’s speak through music. Niggas seem to be getting beside themselves when niggas start speaking, they think in their mind you’re supposed to be this way or that way. Niggas let’s put it down let's make history, lets make music and we could speak about forever but if not let’s do cool shit not some funny shit, I don't have time for shit.
Yeah I feel you. You were talking in a recent interview about how you were thinking about putting records to rest, you’ve never been that dude to be about going into endorsements and stuff some people have said that you haven’t been as much about your business as you should have been. Do you think that’s something fair for people to say about you?
People will have the right to feel what they want to feel about whatever, but you have to realize all the rappers that you see complain about their careers, you ain’t heard Nas complaining. [Laughs.] You don’t get to hear this fucking-around-bullshit. This shit is real, shit that I deal with I don’t know what these cats are thinking about.
If Snoop Dogg makes a flute or a flute dog, now Nas got to make one. If Jay makes fucking pillars for helicopters now Nas got to make pillars. That's where they get it a little twisted and start judging each other about status, it’s corny shit. It’s slave mentality shit because yeah all the races do envy each other and business and shit, but us we envy each other on the littlest achievements. It’s cool man. If I decided that I wanted to do movies, I’ll do them. If I want to do clothes, I’ll do them. And none of the shit out there is rocket science trust me.
I never remember these artists talking about any white executives. And this is not some racist s**t, but I never heard any artist say, “Well this guy, this guy.” They would talk about me if I was president. That’s some slavery s**t. So if Nas is president and ya records isn’t blowing up all the way, they going to publicly try to destroy me. But you’re not publicly trying to destroy nobody white, or anybody that’s not black.
Is there never a case where you look around someone like 50 or like Jay and be like, ‘Oh man, I should’ve got money like they did I should be where they’re at financially’ or nothing like that?
Only if I see them doing something I think embarrasses us young black men then I feel like then I should’ve did it because I could have been the one showing niggas how not to be cooning and fooling. So only if I see those niggas. But if what 50 is doing is easy, they'd be a million 50s. Everybody wants to come in the game and be 50, everybody wants to come and be Jay.
Those brothers were smart with their hustle with their particular situation. Everybody can’t do what they do. Of course, Nas can do whatever he wants to do. And Nas is doing what he wants to do. But again, if I see anybody with the opportunity that’s in the limelight, that’s representing us young black men and I see them cooning off, then I wish, “Ah shit, give me that and let me show you how to it and not be disrespecting yourself and your people. Then here, take it back cause I don’t need all that.”
But there hasn’t been anything specific you can think of in the past they’ve done maybe like a finance move where you’ve thought, “Damn I wish I would’ve done all that?”
Sure, I’m definitely sure because they are really inspirations for all of us, I want them to go all the way. I want to see 50 own the Empire State Building, I want to see Jay own fucking 12 basketball teams, that’s what we need. And that’s the problem with the rap game, niggas is jealous over, like you just said something no disrespect that was kinda ignorant it was, “Would you rather be the president or this guy’s boss or that guy’s boss?”
But we gotta get off this slave shit, we should all be these things, I don’t have an issue with anybody in the position of growth. It’s only when they’re cooning that I get embarrassed because you’re embarrassing me if you’re black. What are you doing? And some of these niggas is really buffoons.
I want to see niggas go all the way cause they pulling more niggas and they pulling more niggas. And I pull in more niggas when I do. I’m pulling in niggas right for the job that can do the job. Cause niggas can’t come in here with some Suge Knight mentality cause that shit is played out and Suge Knight is a genius. You can’t come and just go off on everything, you have to really represent who we really are.
We not only project niggas, we built this fucker, we’re the ones with the universe so let’s act like it. It’s time that we stop acting like, “Oh he ain't got his.” Even with the people being mad at Jay, it’s corny, it comes the fuck off as corny. Cause if you really wanted to know what was up with your shit, these are the guys you gotta look at them and say, “Yo, you’re not on your game” especially someone like L he’s too old of an OG to be mad at Jay. He’s been at Def Jam when we were kids dreaming about being at Def Jam.
That’s crazy so we gotta get off this bullshit cause I never really remember these artists talking about any white executives. And this is not some racist shit, but I never heard any artist say, “Well this guy, this guy.” At the rate, they would talk about me if I was president. That’s some slavery shit. So if Nas is president and ya records isn’t blowing up all the way, they going to publicly try to destroy me. But you’re not publicly trying to destroy nobody white, or anybody that’s not black. You gotta think about that.
I feel you, it’s easier to blame someone who is your peer or someone you can relate to.
Let me make it better for you, it’s easier to blame somebody black because that’s the problem with niggas we don’t respect. If Nas has to go to sleep and wake up at a certain time catch a flight and do this and that to get his shit together they don’t care. They just say, “Nigga why you don’t put me on? Why aren’t you making me rich? You could have brought me with you.” You don’t see a bunch of blind singers going, “Stevie why didn’t you put me on? Why you didn’t help me? I’m blind at the scene too, I used to live in your neighborhood, you a sucker.”
It wasn’t Jay, Jay didn’t sign Nas, this is what I had to do to maneuver my career.
That’s insanity, but that’s what happens with these microwaveable opportunists, the mentality these rappers got and that these people have. I have no excuses, my record comes out and go wood, I can’t blame Jay, this is my joint. Can’t blame L.A. Reid, this is my joint. I sat in there and worked my contract with Sony to make this situation work for me, this is what I had to do, I took these meetings.
It wasn’t Jay, Jay didn’t sign Nas, this is what I had to do to maneuver my career. These things I’ve done as a businessman, this is serious shit. I don’t relate to a lot of artist’s situations because I don’t know their situations. What I’m saying is we have to stop blaming each other over idiot shit cause these motherfuckers is buying YouTube and we renting yachts that they own. Come let’s think about where we are and we’re talking about he’s shining and I’m not, that’s slavery talk, we really have to think about the big picture.
It seems like when dudes get into serious relationships they realize that a lot of beef shit is petty and all that stuff, do you feel your marriage has had the same effect on you?
I think when my daughter was born it had that effect on me first, and it made me really nervous on what I said on wax and what I did. I cared if I lived because you want to be there for them. And the marriage thing was definitely the icing on the cake as far as a nigga on some cool shit.