Interview: Cassie Talks Working in a Boys Club, Her "RockaByeBaby" Mixtape, and Unreleased Music With Kanye and Pharrell

Interview: Cassie Talks Working in a Boys Club, Her "RockaByeBaby" Mixtape, and Unreleased Music With Kanye and Pharrell

They definitely are album worthy, so why didn't you release them on an album?
Because you know why? Because then we would have had to wait til like next year to put it out.

Makes sense. You haven't been working with Ryan Leslie for a while, but did he do any work on this with you or do you plan to do any with him in the future?
Ryan didn’t work on this project, but we had met prior to, when I was kind of working on the second album a little bit more, to try to see if we were going to do something together. He’s working on his own project. I hope for the second album that we do get to work together because I definitely think that we have a dope sound.

Right, because he was very involved in your first album.
Yeah, he did the whole first album, I definitely want him to be involved in the second, too. But I’ve grown and changed a lot, he hasn’t been working with me in studio in years now. I don’t know what that would be like.

 

There’s just a different confidence that I have now that, I can’t say that I didn’t have before, I just didn’t know the power in a woman having confidence and what that does to people.

 

What is the biggest difference between you now and you then, besides the obvious fact that you've grown up?
The way I carry myself. There’s just a different confidence that I have now that, I can’t say that I didn’t have before, I just didn’t know the power in a woman having confidence and what that does to people.

Where did you find the confidence?
I went through a lot of damn experiences. [Laughs] Going through a lot of shit and going through a lot of shit in public. Sometimes you just don’t even want to be bothered, but that can make your skin tougher. I actually posted on Instagram yesterday, I think the thing said “All this bullshit made me strong motherfucker.” That sums up pretty much the past six years for me.

There’s been a lot of bullshit. I’ve dealt with people, worked with people, had bad relationships, fired people. Tons of stuff. And so many new doors were opened and so many new people came into my life that changed my life in such good ways, too. I was never hardened to it.

 

Pharrell and I did a record together and I still have it. I actually wanted to put it on the mixtape, but it just didn’t fit it. It’s a record called “Hide.” And I did get in with Kanye. A couple of the songs were written to the beats that he did, it just never really turned into anything.

 

Do you look back on your early years or the past six years and regret something you've done or not releasing music?
I think it’s probably just overall me not sticking to my gut in the beginning and just not putting out things that were dope at that point. I made so many remixes to things that I loved at the time and I never put them out.

There’s just so many things that I never followed my heart with because I was so worried about what people were going to think. That’s probably it, but I don’t regret it, it definitely set me up for where I am now.

I remember Diddy saying that you were working with Kanye and Pharrell on your second album years ago.
Pharrell and I did a record together and I still have it. I actually wanted to put it on the mixtape, but it just didn’t fit it. It’s a record called “Hide.” And I did get in with Kanye. A couple of the songs were written to the beats that he did, it just never really turned into anything. Sometimes I think production and stuff like that comes from the most unordinary places.

Speaking of that, you're working with Da Internz on your next album. They're also working with Miley Cyrus, which is where I learned about them.
She’s like rapping and stuff now, I heard. She’s so dope. I love her style and everything. But, Da Internz, I actually was out with them the other night because we had a little celebration party for the mixtape. They’re dope. We’ve already done two songs for the album that are done, in the can, ready to go out. I’m excited about working with them. They’re like a new fresh sound.

 

Depending on how everything moves right now, because we’re a quarter of the way into the year, and probably the way it would be set up, we could get the album out by the end of the year.

 

What's the difference going to be like between the second album and the mixtape? And when do you expect to put that out?
Depending on how everything moves right now, because we’re a quarter of the way into the year, and probably the way it would be set up, we could get it out by the end of the year. I think that this mixtape is going to set the tone for what people want to hear and I’m going to find out what they really want to hear and be able to make that now.

In terms of the roster over at Bad Boy and your relationship with Diddy, how do they affect your creative process?
We all work together, top to bottom. Whether it’s some piece of artwork or what shoe I’m wearing it’s all a joint effort. Production wise, we’re all 100 percent involved. We all will listen all the way down, we have it playing in our cars. Like, ‘No I want to change this. Ok, we’re going back in. Ok, Puff, it’s cool? We’re going to change this now.’ It’s just been a group effort. I’m happy with it.

What do you have planned now that the mixtape is out and everything?
I’m just doing my thing in any type of way I can do it. Opportunities keep presenting themselves. I have a campaign with Forever 21 that’s about to come out and we’re working on some stuff together. I’m just doing whatever comes naturally at this point. I don’t know what’s going to happen in the next few months, but I think it’s going to be pretty exciting.

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