Complex: You’re known
for singing and dancing, but your recent YouTube videos have mostly been of you
rapping—the 6’7” freestyle and the one you did over Lupe’s “I’m Beaming.” Was
rap something you’ve always wanted to do?
Jay Park: I mean, I’ve always liked hip-hop and rap, ever
since I was in the second grade.
Complex: What was
your first exposure to it, do you remember?
Jay Park: Yeah, actually I remember it like it was
yesterday. My cousin, he’s like six years older than me, he let me listen to
Warren G “Regulate”—that’s the first hip-hop track I ever heard.
Complex: That’s a
Jay Park: Ever since then, I’ve been listening to rap and
Complex: It was sort
of a natural move for you, then.
Jay Park: I started out doing rap ever since I was in middle
school. I never used to sing. Once I got into JYP, I got vocal lessons. That’s
when I started to sing. I used to be a horrible singer. And, I mean, I’m not
the best right now. But I’ve always liked to rap. I used to be really big on
lyricism—I listened to Eminem, Canibus, Nas, 2Pac. And then, I couldn’t really
write lyrics, but as of late, I’ve just been kind of getting back into it. And
I was like, 6’7” sounds dope, I should just…’cause I had all these raps saved
up to spit over four minutes, and that’s just what I did.
Complex: As far as
the collaborations you’ve been doing here with Asian-American rappers—with Dumbfoundead,
J.Reyez, and Decipher, to name three—how do these collabos come about? Do they
reach out to you? Or are these relationships you had in the past?
Jay Park: Dumbfoundead kind of happened really organically. We were just like, “Alright, let’s do a song.” Decipher, I met at Rutgers,
actually. And then J.Reyez reached out to me. I’m always down to help a fellow
Korean rapper. They have to be dope, they have to be nice, but I’m always down
to help someone who has talent.
Complex: The song that
you did with Dumbfoundead and Clara C, “Clouds,” blew up on YouTube. Since this
collaboration and others came about organically, as you said, do you see any
profit from them? Like “Clouds” wasn’t available on iTunes, was it?
Jay Park: Nah, it was for free download—same with the one
for J.Reyez. I just do it because I respect them as artists and we’re just
homies, and I try to help them out. It’s not for my own benefit.
Complex: How about “Count
On Me,” your Korean version of B.o.B’s “Nothin’ On You”? That’s your biggest solo song
thus far. How did that all come about?
Jay Park: When [the original song] first came out, when it
wasn’t even a hit, I thought, I should do a cover of this. I’ve always seen
people do YouTube covers and I’ve always wanted to do it, but I didn’t. And
then I finally had the freedom to do it, so I did.
Complex: Was that the
first actual cover that you did?
Jay Park: Yeah, the first actual cover I put up on YouTube.
And then I actually got contacted by
Warner Brothers Asia saying they wanted me to cover it and do a remix of it to
drop it in Asia, ’cause they have the rights to the song. We did it, and it
turned out to be a success, so it was good.Complex: Did you get to
talk to B.o.B about it?
Jay Park: Nah, I was hoping that we could perform it at
least once. Because in Korea, he actually went platinum, by Korean standards.
definitely got some legs in Asia on that from you.
Jay Park: Yeah. There’s a track that, instead of Bruno Mars,
I’m singing on the hook. So, yeah, he basically sold over 10,000 units over
there, which is really hard to do in Korea because everybody illegally downloads.
Especially if you’re a foreign artist that just comes out. So, I was hoping I’d
get to see him, get to perform with him, but I never got the chance to.
Complex: I’m sure
that opportunity could arise in the future. Unlike the other organic collabos
we’ve discussed, “Count On Me” was released for sale and charted. Have you been
able to cash checks from it?
Jay Park: My actual profit from the song isn’t financially
huge, because of the deal we did. But it’s cool, I just wanted to get a chance
to be on the same album as B.o.B, which is dope. The song did really well,
actually. It was on top of the charts over there in Asia, it sold a
lot…surprisingly. It’s not even my official first single or anything, it’s a
cover, but it sold like 60,000 units.Complex: You opened
with that song when you performed at the Beach Festival in Naksan in Korea last
August. I wasn’t there, but people were telling me that you had the biggest
reaction at the event, which included Kanye West. What do you remember about
the show, and did you get a chance to meet ’Ye?
Jay Park: I actually performed the same day as Lupe. Kanye
was the first day, Lupe was the next day. That was my first performance in like
a year. I thought I did really well, but after I looked back at the footage, I was
way too excited about the performance, way too energetic, and it kind of came
off sloppy. But the energy was good, the vibe was good, and everyone was having
a good time. It was kind of sad that I didn’t have any songs of my own to do
back then, and I had to do “Nothin’ On You” and some other songs. I wish my set
would’ve been longer. But I got to meet Lupe, and I actually interviewed him
for SBS—I don’t know if it aired or not—and I asked him if he’d ever do a
collaboration with an Asian artist, and he said he’s actually working with Teriyaki Boyz.Complex: If any American artist would do it, it’d
definitely be Lupe.
Jay Park: Yeah,
he’s a real humble dude. He’s cool.
Complex: Last April, there was an allhiphop.com
story about your forthcoming American album, reportedly with help from Teddy
Riley, Snoop, and T-Pain. The story came out and it kind of went away. Was
there truth to that, or were those just rumors?
Jay Park: That
was rumors. I did a song with Teddy Riley, “Demon,” and I spit on a couple of
tracks over some T-Pain and some Snoop Dogg, but I don’t know if it’s gonna
come out or anything like that. It was just rumors. As of right now, I’m
definitely trying to do the U.S. stuff, too, but I’m trying to establish my
place on top for sure in Asia, and then move on to the U.S. and do all that
stuff maybe next year, 2012.Complex: To that point, you’ve obviously
experienced superstardom in Korea and Asia, and you’re looking at next year to
jump out in the U.S. From your vantage point, do you think there’s a difference
between what makes a star in Asia and what makes a star here? Or is it similar?
Jay Park: I
mean, it’s really different. But I think if you have the skills, you’re
talented and, you stay humble and cool—if you stay real—people will see
that anywhere in the world. When you do interviews, when you do TV, when you do
radio, even in your songs, your music videos, if you stay real and you’re
talented, people will see that. And you’ll blow up, regardless.Complex: You've done several interviews in Korea over the last year, but you haven’t
really done any English-language interviews yet. Do you foresee doing more U.S.
press next year?
Jay Park: The
reason why is because if I do press stuff here, it’s like: “Oh yeah, he does a
bunch of stuff in Asia.” People won’t really know here. They won’t really hear
about me, they don’t really know who I am. So, after I come out with something
in the U.S., then I’ll do a bunch of stuff here and be like, “You can catch me,
I’m doing a show in New York.” Then I think it’s more relevant.
Complex: Right. Because, although you have a
sizable fan base in the States, I’m sure you want to reach everybody.
Jay Park: Yeah,
I wanna reach everyone. Not just people who like K-pop, but people who like
music, and pop music, and all that.
Complex: When you
first came back, you were a total free agent. Since then, you’ve signed with
managers in the U.S., and last summer you signed with Sidus in Korea. What
qualities were you looking for from your new management team?
Jay Park: I
mean, even back then, I didn’t really think about all that. It’s not like I was
like, Oh, I need to do an album in Korea, and do this and do that. I was just
going wherever life was taking me. I was just chillin’, as you saw. Ned
[Sherman of Digital Media Wire] and his wife, Tinzar, actually reached out to
me. She saw my story and she felt really bad about what happened. They set me
up with a bunch of meetings with managers, and then we met Seth [Friedman], and
his background is crazy, and he was the coolest guy of all, the most laidback and chill, which is kind of like how I am. I thought it was a
good fit. For Sidus, they’re a really established company in Korea, and they
really made efforts to reach out to me, so I appreciated that. And then, when
we did our contract, I had the freedom to do what I want creatively, which I
wanted. So, that’s why I chose to work with them.Complex: You filmed your first movie, Hype Nation, over the summer. Did you see the finished product yet, and in your
mind, was the experience a success?
Jay Park: I
haven’t seen the finished product. There’s not really much word about Hype Nation
right now. Even back then—again, I didn’t do it because I thought it
was a good career move for myself, like, Ooh, if I do this movie, it’s gonna
blow up. It didn’t really seem like it was gonna be like that, to be honest. I
just did it because I asked if my crew can be it. [The producers] said they
could be in it, so basically I split my share that I’m getting paid with my
crew. And they flew us all out—me, my crew, my family. First time ever that my
whole family, my whole crew, was all going somewhere together. So I did it.
Complex: On the Internet, you’ve turned into somewhat
of a social-networking beast. How do you feel about connecting with your fans on Twitter (@JAYBUMAOM) and the like?
Jay Park: Back
when I was in the group, I was really lazy. I didn’t do any of that stuff. Even
though my company told me to do it, I didn’t do it.
Complex: Oh, so the 2PM guys all had Twitter
accounts back then?
Jay Park: They
set up a Twitter for us, but I’m the one who never used it. I’m the one who
used our café [fan site for K-pop groups] the least, and never put up any
comments or anything like that. So, I was really lazy. But ever since all that
stuff happened—the scandal, the controversy—my fans have been there by my side
through everything. So, I can’t help but to be like this, ’cause I’m thankful. I
use Twitter, I use Facebook, I use YouTube, and I just try to update them on
what’s going on, because they’ve been waiting on my album for so long. For like
a year and a half. So, I just keep giving them updates and stuff like that.Complex: I noticed that the recent chatter among
your fans is about the tattoos you’ve been getting recently. I think they’re
scared you’re gonna start looking like Weezy or Wiz Khalifa.
Jay Park: [Laughs.
] Well, basically, I got a couple little ones. And then I started
looking into the mirror, and my body started looking empty. [Laughs.
] So I went tattoo crazy for a little bit, for like a month or a month
and a half. You know, if you get a whole bunch of tattoos, it’s not really good
for your image, and you can’t come out on TV. But for me, I don’t really care
if it’s bad for my image. If you’re a good person, it doesn’t matter what you
look like, you’re a good person. I stopped for now, but you never know what’s
gonna happen. I plan on getting more throughout the years.Complex: Big entertainment groups from Korea are
still recruiting in the U.S. to search for, basically, new
versions of you. As someone who’s gone through the entire “trainee” experience, what
advice might you give to a teenager who is in the position you were when you were
17 and getting sent to Korea?
Jay Park: Back
then, I didn’t have any friends, I was really new. The food, the
language—couldn’t speak the language. It was like culture shock. They did
things way different than the way I did it. So, I was really not open to all
that, and I was really negative. I’d say, just to make your experience more
enjoyable and to get better: Be open to anything. And just enjoy your
experience. In anything. Even if you don’t like it, enjoy it. You’ll learn from
it somehow. You’ll better yourself somehow. That’s all I can say.
Complex: Given all that’s happened, do you have regrets? Or do you think all of this
happened for a reason?
Jay Park: Definitely, everything happens for a reason. All
the controversy after I came here, I started working at a tire shop. You know…I
saw my friends and my crew and my family two weeks out of the year before. Even
when I was doing all that, what I really wanted to do was be with my crew and
see my family a lot. And finally, I can. I’m traveling places with my crew—it’s
like a dream come true, basically.
Complex: With some
recent talk-show comments by JYP and then your latest public apology, there is still media curiosity about exactly what led to the break from 2PM. In the future, do
you foresee a time when you will want to really explain your side of the story, like write a tell-all book or something?
Or, do you feel that this chapter should be closed forever?
Jay Park: I
mean, I feel like people [write tell-all books] because they’re falling off and they want to
get a buzz. Why would you want to stir up a whole bunch of controversy when
things are going well? Nothing good can come out of it. For me, I’m just doing
my thing. I’m just trying to get my skills up to par, please my fans, be with
my crew and my family, and bring us all up.
Complex: What’s next
for you? How would you want Complex readers who aren’t familiar with you to get
to know you
Jay Park: I worked with a whole bunch of producers when I
was in L.A. I worked with Greg Ogan [Britney Spears, Rihanna], Stereotypes
[Ne-Yo, Justin Bieber, Far East Movement], Dre from Dre & Vidal [Chris
Brown, Usher], so I have a whole bunch of tracks that are pretty dope. I have a
couple R&B tracks, a hip-hop track, some electro-dance stuff. Once all that
comes out, they’ll see what I’m about. As of right now, I just want them to
think that, even though I do all the K-pop stuff, I’m still a b-boy, I’m still
a rapper, I’m still an entertainer. I’m just a cool dude that chills with his
friends and goes around doing shows all over the world.
your Korean album coming out soon, are you at all still concerned about what the
public perception of you is in Korea right now?
Jay Park: Not really, because I’ve just been trying to be a
nice guy, trying to please my fans, trying to take care of everybody around me.
And if they think that’s horrible, what can I do. I’m just trying to make good
music. Hopefully, they’ll see that. Hopefully, when my [Korean] album comes
out, they’ll be like, oh, this guy is really talented, he wrote his own songs,
he can dance, he can sing, he can rap, he can do it all. And he did it with all
his close friends. So, if it blows up, hopefully they’ll see I’m trying to help
everyone around me and that I’m a nice guy.