Was this a goal you were working towards when you first started out?
Yeah, that's what I was about. I wanted to be an artist, and doing my Warhol-Soup Train was about that. That was the last train I painted, as a message to let people know that people doing graf knew more about just doing their names. We were aware of the art world, and meeting Jean-Michel, and a bunch of other artists, I figured we could be in that space, too.

You built the bridge which brought hip-hop, graffiti, and street art to the downtown scene. Do you think there's still that relationship between music and art, different worlds being merged together?
It seems that it is. More people are involved, more people know about it. It's become a global culture. It was only in the city at that time, and now it's worldwide. That's what is exciting for me, especially with Art in the Streets. There's a great website, Artinthestreet.tv, and it has short clips of the main artist in the show. You really get to see the diversity of the artist and their work. Different energies from different places. Mister Cartoon in L.A., everyone knows him for his tattoos, but the first time he saw graffiti, was when Lee and I were doing graf in the Rapture video, then he saw Wild Style and started doing his thing in L.A. I'm learning all these pieces to the puzzle now, how all these cats got connected. Os Gemeos had a black and white fax machine copy of Subway Art. That got them going. It's crazy how this culture just sparked so many people to jump into the game and bring their flavor to it. I'm happy to have been part of that in the beginning, and I'm back in the lane right now bringing new flavors, so hey—check me out.
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