Big, how much did you know about skateboarding before you started working with Rob?

Big Black: I knew a little bit. I used to work security, so I used to throw these guys out. I never really flexed and overexerted myself running after them. I would say, "Yo, step," and go back in my building. I knew a little bit about it. If I was at 7-11 I'd look at a magazine, see something hot, and be like, Wow.

Rob Dyrdek: No way. Before you met me? No, no.

Big Black: Yes, I did, dude. I would stand there and look at surf magazines, look at skate mags.

Rob Dyrdek: What were you looking for?

Big Black: Just looking! Checking it out.

Rob Dyrdek: I can tell you I never looked at any security mags.

Rob, you just shot the film Righteous Kill salongside Robert De Niro and Al Pacino, which is due out next year. Not too shabby for a debut role!

Rob Dyrdek: I am so honored. I actually went in to read for a role that was already cast. Me and [director] Jon Avnet sat and talked about the film, about De Niro and Pacino doing a movie with 50 Cent. I explained to him that in my world it doesn't get any sicker. We started bouncing ideas around and he offered me to play a punk kid pimping foreign girls. Afterwards, [Avnet] shook my hand and said, "It don't get any bigger than this." I said, "You don't got to tell me!"

Is the mini horse still here?

Rob Dyrdek: Got him gelded. Trained him with a mini-horse trainer around the corner. He's good to go.

What does "gelded" mean?

Rob Dyrdek: Neutered. Mini-horse talk.

happens in the new season?

Rob Dyrdek: It's like constantly more ridiculous things keep flowing and flowing. We took the mini horse to a competition. Got a fourth place ribbon. In the mini-horse world that was really big. Somebody took a dump in the pool as a prank. That's why I had to get a net gun. Next time we're going to spot you on the security camera and catch you mid-dump.

Who did it?

Rob Dyrdek: We don't know. We were convinced Drama [Rob's cousin and assistant] did it. We got a lie detector. I'm not even playing with you. We were thinking about getting the thing DNA'ed. [Rob pulls a plastic baggie bearing a dark brown frozen turd from the freezer.]

Big Black: We keep our doo-doo on ice around here.

Rob Dyrdek: It's fully frozen. We're trying to get Drama to take a dump in the bag.

Big Black: And then test it.

Big Black: Take a dump in the bag, we're going to check your DNA.

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